Ancient Greek, Nabataea, Rabbel II with Gamilat, AR Sela 3.4g, (76 AD), Year 6

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  1. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

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    Ancient Greek, Nabataea, Rabbel II with Gamilat, AR Sela 3.4g, (76 AD), Year 6

    Obverse: RBAL MLK NBTW SLT 6, Laureate, diademed, and draped bust of Rabbel II right.

    Reverse: GMLT AHTH MLKT NBTW, Veiled and draped bust of Gamilat right.

    Reference:

    Viewable with Everson Mono and Unifont

    Obverse legend: ← - RBAL MLK NBTW SLT 6

    Reverse Legend: ← GMLT AHTH MLKT NBTW


    I just finished this Nabataean coin today. I used two things, a site by John and the Ancient Coin Visual Keyboard together which works very well. I have both the font for Nabatean and the transliteration.

    http://www.nabataeannumismatics.com/index.html


    ac-vk-nabataean.png

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ancientwhitesheet/AC-VK-Nabataen-Greek-Latin.html

    The first top section is the basic 22 letter alphabet with the modern Latin transliteration letters. The second section is some of the mid and final letters supported by the font. Some characters are missing which are not supported by unicode. The third section is the Nabatean numbers, fourth section is uppercase Greek, Latin and then punctuation. Usually, this is enough to do most Nabataean coins.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataean_alphabet

    My goal continues to transliterate as many coins as I can for detailed IDs that I like. I have a few others that I'm considering supporting after I work out some more issues by the current keyboards. Like Phags-pa which is a script which had limited use in Asia, in Mongolia. This script was not originally called Phags-Pa but was created by this Tibetan monk and named after him later on, originally called square script by some.
     
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  3. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Unfortunately, the Nabataean will not show on this board while other scripts will work.
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Your Nabataen visual keyboard doesn't work on my computer because I don't have a Nabataean unicode characters installed.

    I clicked the Everson Mono link on your website. It has many fonts including Nabataean but it costs 25 EUR.

    If I had the font it would appear in the 10880 range in the Character Viewer on my Mac and I just the desired character, or I could use your "visual keyboard" in the same manner (looks like it might save a step). I don't see a way around having to have the font installed though.

    Screen Shot 2018-09-12 at 9.41.31 PM.png
     
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  5. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    There is a download link for Everson Mono. The price is for licensing if used commercially. Looks like it's free to use. Clicking the download under the pay button does not force you to pay. It's in a Zip file. This is the exact download link you want.

    "Download Everson Mono Mac OS X, for Linux, or for Windows (.ttf format)" on the site.

    Here is Unifont which is a two font set. The Unifont Upper will display Nabataean.

    http://unifoundry.com/unifont/index.html

    The two Unifonts are 100% free.

     
  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    The fonts for most of the other script requires Segoe UI Historic which comes with Windows 10, but it compatible with many other PC systems as well. It will display Cypriote Syllabary and many others.
     
  7. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Free low-quality font with nearly all of the ancient scripts: http://unifoundry.com/unifont/index.html
     
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  8. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Yep, download Unifont upper specifically. I use both of them. Alphabetum is another that works but is not for free.
     
  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Trajan overstrike on Rabbel ll . Id courtesy of John Anthony. 16-18mm, 2.60gms. Trajan early Nabatean strikeover silver 001.JPG Trajan early Nabatean strikeover silver 002.JPG
     
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  10. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I've never seen anything like it. There are older over-strikes, however. Thanks for posting.
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Rabbel II and Gamilath.jpg
    Rabbel II, AD 71-106, and Gamilath, his wife and sister
    AE 15 Nabatea, Petra 3.10 g; 15.1 mm
    Obv: Jugate busts of Rabbel and Gamilath to right
    Rev: Two cornuacopiae, crossed; between them Aramaic legend, "Rabbel, Gamilath" in two lines
    Refs: Meshorer 163; SGI 5706; BMC 28.13,3; Forrer 168.
     
  12. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Yeah, not Aramaic, Nabataean. I realize that a few reference books and coin attribution records say it's Aramaic.
     
  13. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    That is a fantastic coin @Gil-galad I assume many pass it over thinking it is bronze.

    I may need to use fonts such as these for my new site (probably Phoenician), but right now I'm still on the Greek font which is supported on browsers fortunately.
    Screenshot_20180912-222540.jpg
     
  14. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Yeah, there was a time I could not tell the difference with the sand on it but now I can most of the time right away. I prefer to have the coin look like it is right now and I'm not going to clean it anymore than it already has been.

    Yeah, I love this coin already and it's a recent acquisition. It's also to help me work on my keyboard for Nabataean.

    There are quite a lot of monograms on Greek coins, especially a lot of tetradrachms. I think it would take quite a lot of effort to search through every unicode block to find some but not all monograms. I haven't really tried to do it as I have enough to do right now.

    Since you mentioned your new site, do you have a link ready to show yet?
     
  15. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Another thing about the keyboard. Once you get those fonts installed, change the font in your browser in settings. I'm using Chrome. You can do the same in other browsers as well. Unfortunately, the keyboard doesn't work right in Internet Explorer. Since I don't use IE I'm not sure I'm going to fix it.
     
  16. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Not yet, I work on it when I have free time. There are over 1500 controls just through Antiochus III. It's taking a lot time to make those but the back end is finished. In a few months and if the mods allow if I'll ask if a few members can review the beta version.
     
  17. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I have a different approach. I've been making websites for well over 20 years so I just upload right away and let it evolve on it's own, on the fly. Sites are always under construction and will never be finished. For example, Doug Smith has a excellent website for just as long and it's still not finished because he's still adding to it from what I understand.

    Also, with the approach I take, I can get more reviews, corrections, editions, etc.

    My current website for ancient coins is 4 years old. I have a video game site that is 22 years old.
     
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