1922-d

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  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

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  3. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Wow, that looks like one awesome Lincoln! Man. Something just doesn't seem right though, doesn't make sense to me that he didn't keep it in the PCI holder.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  4. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

  5. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Cappd.....I am already bidding on the coin, I should have stated that, but please lets not war in the bidding column ok?
     
  6. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    This coin looks beautiful!!

    I can't say that because PCI has given it a grade and this 90% Red condition, that that impresses me at all. The coin is either red, red brown, or brown, period. That having been said it looks solid red to me. A little toning on the reverse, but no problem in my book. Can't say I'm crazy about the cost to possess one of these babies, but that's because I'm not rich.

    Personally I think the coin is under graded. I see no object issues and or field issue from these pics. But pictures never really do the trick when investing in a coin such as this. I'd have to it in hand to make a positive judgment, for that price.

    Outside of all that GO GETTER!!!

    Allen
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't know what to say. I think it has a good shot at 65. PCI says it is RB, but the seller says it is red and the photos look awfully uniform for it to be RB. The price difference between red and RB is ~%500 to $1800. He has a good return policy. Split the difference??
     
  8. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Jack,

    IMHO, the coin is a solid 65 and could even squeek by with a 66 with the right Graders! Also, although there is quite a bit of Red remaining (note: pictures can be so deceptive due to lighting situations!), the coin would still receive the RB color designation. Although I am probably being a little paranoid, I am a little suspect of the "D" Mintmark due to the sunken-in (indentation appearance) area around the Mintmark even if this is fairly typical of Mintmarked Lincoln Cents of this period. If you continue to bid on and win the coin, I would advise you to ask for a fairly liberal Return Policy so that you can send the coin into PCGS for authentication and grading and return it for a full refund, in case it happened to come back body-bagged as altered.


    Frank
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I would not suspect adding a D to a 1922, I think the coin is legit, have studied it pretty good. Now the problem is a zero feedback bidder, I dont accept bids from zero's, but who knows, the coin is still reasonable....

    For a 1922 , this coin is exceptional, I suspect it will go fairly high, maybe beyond what I'm willing to pay, we'll see

    Hope I don't see another situation like the 24-d yesterday......
     
  10. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    It looks like a great coin,
     
  11. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector


    I agree with Phoenix on this one looks great but my ESP:D tells me stop.
    Why was it taken from the PCI holder and was it sent in to another grading company and cam back as a body bag for cleaning? The luster looks almos sprayed on

    Price is to high also
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i am staying awya not that i can aford any of those crazy prices
     
  13. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I was waiting.......Am I the only one to notice the reverse is rotated also?
     
  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    I know of many members that have talked about breaking out their slabs to put the coin in their albums. When you then upgrade or decide to sell for some reason this is the way you would have to show what it was graded at. This doesn't concern me as much as the ones that claim that they were graded by so and so but don't have at least the label to prove it.

    The back of this coin is rotated but not enough to matter that much. if it isn't at least 15-20 degree rotation most don't give it any premium.
    All in all a very nice coin that I wouldn't mind adding to my collection if I had the dough.

    Richard
     
  15. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    One word from a Lincoln guy myself. WOW!
     
  16. SDPlayer

    SDPlayer Member


    Richard, please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the rotation shown in the pictures just shy of 180 degrees, not the 15 - 20 that you state? The photos are showing an east-west flip, not a north-south. So zero rotation would have the reverse as totally upside-down.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am reasonably sure that is a 10-15 degree rotation. If you are going by the label, it is not affixed to the 2x2.
     
  18. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    If it is indeed an east - west flip you are right. I wouldn't be so sure it is though. I think that the coin is in a flip that has 4 staples in it and the lister just set it so that it shows upright in relation to the label that is placed over the top. the bottom staple on the reverse appears to be at a slightly different angle than the bottom staple on the obverse. I could be wrong in which case this would be a nice find.

    Richard
     
  19. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    You got there quicker than me!
     
  20. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Jack,

    The rotation is not enough to matter as it is at best 10%! Besides, most errors on Key Date coins have an adverse effect on their' values. This is witnessed in the fact that the 1909-S/S "RPM #1 and #2" Cents sell for quite a bit lower than a normal 1909-S in the same grades, although most Price Guides give values 10 to 20% or higher in grades from Fine into the MS grades. I have seen this same phenomena happen with many other Key Date coins that had some type of genuine error on them!


    Frank
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I saw this when first posted - and I have looked at more than once. In this case I agree with PCI - I think the coin is a definite 65 RB. The wheat is where I see the brown, enough to knock it from red to rb. I think this is one nice looking coin.
     
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