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Obverse A used on S-188 and NC-1:
Note spacing of 99.


Obverse B used on S-189. Note the spacing of 99. A little closer.

 

DING!DING! DING! We have a winner. This is the 1799 NC-1. It's obviously Obverse A, but the reverse is A with the leaves under RI away from the wreath stem as opposed to overlapping it as on Reverse B (S-188). It is currently listed as R7 with 7-9 known.

It has a heavy clash from the obverse at the denominator similar but heavier to many Reverse Bs. This is a new die state and not seen on any of the other 8 known (by Noyes) NC-1s. This may explain the uneven and excessive "wear" at LIBERTY.

Congratulations!

ps I hope CONDER is still watching and confirms this one for you.

I'm thrilled with the identification of any new NC specimen, particularly the really rare ones. I was given an opportunity to confirm a new 1795 NC-3 a few years back and didn't think it would happen again.

 

Reverses of 1799:

A


B



C

 

It has a heavy clash from the obverse at the denominator similar but heavier to many Reverse Bs. This is a new die state and not seen on any of the other 8 known (by Noyes) NC-1s. This may explain the uneven and excessive "wear" at LIBERTY.

This is the time for caution. This reverse was also used on the 1798 S-173 and this example is definitely a later die state than those. It would indicate the necessity for an interrupted emission sequence NC-1a, S-173a,b,c, NC-1d or a reevaluation of the current emission sequence. It would be highly unusual, but did happen on the S-76.

Noyes actually has a conflict in his emission sequence showing S-173 struck first on his S-173 post and the NC-1 first on the NC-1 post.

This may be Reverse X of 1798 which shows this same clash. It could be an altered date or a new variety.

 

1798 Reverse X Used on S-174.

 

I'm so disappointed to say I have to go with an altered date now. The obverse has some chips below the hair ribbon and in front of the neck consistent with the S-174.

 

@Marshall. Any thoughts on my 3?

 

I'm sorry for putting them off. I'm still struggling with Late Date attribution. I'll see what I can do.

No luck. I just can't even see the diagnostics on the comps, much less the coins.

 

When I bought that, I was told it wasn't a real 99 but an altered 98.

 

At least you now know what it was altered from.

 

I don't understand. Is it altered or not? I never looked at it closely because I always wanted an altered one.

 

Yes. It is a 1798 S-174 which has been altered to show a 1799.

 

Bummer, was starting to think it was a real one. You got me.

 

S-191 Obverse is Type 1 without the extra curl so Obverse 1. Reverse is B with diagnostic cracks from the stem to the A and from A to the rim above C.

 

I got me too - at first.

 

S-192 R3

Obverse 2 is an overdate with a heavy 9 showing in the 1st 0 and the second 0 even with the other digits. The tops of both points of 7 show at the top of 8 and to the right side of 8. HWH left of upright of R, SHWH under the upright of E.

Reverse C has a diagnostic crack from the rim below the space between the ribbon and the 1 in the denominator through the top of 1, the middle of the fraction bar, the ribbon just above the bend, the end of the right stem, bottom of C, middle of I to the rim just left of I. A second crack develops through R in later die stages/states.

Yours appears to be a terminal Die State, perhaps beyond those known. The die is sinking above the cracks leaving the portion below the crack protected. I've seen this sinking between the two cracks (which itself is beyond the terminal die state in published works), but never left of them as yours does.

In fact, I might have seen this earlier this year and it may have been in a prior post in this thread.

 

What is HWH?

 

HWH is Highest Wave of Hair and it is the wave below the R (usually, on several 97's it is almost between the E and R, on S-217 and 218 it is below the center of the E.)