Attribute This

I can see a trace of the crack from the foot of the R to the leaf point, and from the 0 to the right ribbon. There may also be a trace from the ribbon to the right foot of A.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

I think I see it now as well. It looks like an early III with some, but not the majority of the diagnostics for III. But not a II.

On my common varieties, I look for something like the Die State or strike to make each special. I think this fits the bill, even with it's edge problems.

 

Please marshall. I really don't undersand alot about these coins. I know you do. May you tell me the page that explain all these S- something varietys. I'm ready to branch out

 

Im seeing 1793. Im crazy right

 

Sorry, Marshall, I can not get a clear picture of the edge with my camera and my non-existent photographic skills. I can't get coin to focus. The edge is quite corroded , as well. There is something after the word "dollar" and is a leaf or two.

 

I hope it is 2 leaves. the only coin I've heard of with 2 leaves following DOLLAR is the S-11b, an R4 variety of the Wreath Cent, but which was struck just before the Liberty Caps.

This would make it UNIQUE and a new subvariety or might be considered an error being struck on an older planchet already edged which just got mixed in with the planchets intended for use. How they handle this is a bit inconsistent.

When the planchets with the two leaves were used on the S-11, they were mixed with single leaf edge planchets since the die states are found on those 2 subvarieties are the same.

This is something definitely worth investigation and examination by one or more of the current Early Copper experts.

 

I hope it is 2 leaves. the only coin I've heard of with 2 leaves following DOLLAR is the S-11b, an R4 variety of the Wreath Cent, but which was struck just before the S-13 Liberty Caps.

This would make your coin UNIQUE.

There are volumes of literature on varieties of these Early Date Large Cents. I recently purchased a 6 volume set of UNITED STATES LARGE CENTS by William Noyes and the first 4 volumes are Early Dates. Before that, ENCYCLOPEDIA OF EARLY UNITED STATES LARGE CENTS by Walter Breen, Del Bland and Mark Borchardt and before that PENNY WHIMSY by William H. Sheldon, an update of his earlier work, EARLY AMERICAN CENTS.

Sheldon listed varieties known to him like other collectors had before him, taking what he thought of as the best approach to listing all of them.

He chose to list the collectable ones in sequence starting with S-1 (1793) and continue it through S-295 (1814). This list became very popular and the standard for Early Date Cent Collectors.

There are other varieties with an NC (Non-Collectable) designation which he did not consider collectable due to there being less than 3 available to collectors. As more were discovered, some were modified to NC (Now Collectable) so the original list wouldn't have to be renumbered.

There are some online resources available to help with photos for attribution, but the best information I've found is Heritage Auction Archives of Early Date Large Cents when described by Mark Borchardt. While he is not mentioned by name, his descriptions and knowledge of these varieties makes his descriptions unmistakably his.

 

Thanks, Marshall. After staring at it again, there is damage at the "R" and only 1 leaf. So much for unique. 8-( So, most likely a 13 given all of the corrosion and pitting. I never have seen one holed and only saw pictures of one plugged. So, it has been just a filler all of these years never replaced.

Thanks for everyone's comments. I have very few that have been attributed to Sheldon numbers if you folks want to take on a set that is a bit different quality-wise. I will start with a Chain and go from there every day or so through 1857.

 

I love to. I specialize in affordable grade attribution. I do warn you though. I'm an expert among novices and a novice among experts.

 

Any 1793 Liberty Cap is a good one.

 

Quotable. I try to help people for the same affordable price.

 

S-2 I believe. Definitely Reverse C. Definitely not Obverse 2 or 4. But I think 1 is closer than 3.

 

I never found a chain with nice details.

 

Like they say. Their all good

 

Reverse A so S-1.

 

I'll try to keep up with you.

 

S-9 Definitely Late Die State, Possibly a new terminal die state with die sinking between crack across (C)A and the crack below R(I). It's a little hard to determine how much sinking has occured with the higher grade comps and is highlighted on lower grade specimens.

 

S-6 It might be my favorite reverse.

 

Last one tonight. My last 1793.