Need help with late Qing coppers

i have no idea of the authenticity, orthe id of these two late qing coppers. Any help, or links to resources will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

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@Loong Siew @TypeCoin971793
Think you guys could help out? Be awesome if you could.

 

The smaller coin is supposed a coin from Fengtien Province "dated" 1903. The other coin is supposedly from Sichuan Province "dated" 1906. Both are not genuine.

I would ask your money back if I were you.

 

Both have the fabric of modern struck Chinese counterfeits.

 

Alright thanks for the info

 

unfortunately I tend to agree with @TypeCoin971793 . The dragon design does not seem to conform to the expected design.

 

It is unfortunately extremely common for Chinese counterfeiters to create modern fantasies, before buying a proper catalogue I made this mistake a few times too. I would advise looking at this page at Scott Semans World Coins:

https://coincoin.com/seCC9.htm

which includes a list of the most common variants, most rarer variants have the same dragons in their design.