Claudius II?

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    This thing was nothing but a green mess when I got it. I've managed to get a lot of the crud off and I think I was able to ID it...sort of.
    I believe it to be:

    Claudius II, IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
    AEQVITAS AVG, Aequitas standing left holding scales and cornucopiae

    UI6.jpg

    Does that sound right? There is something to the right of Aequitas but I can't tell for sure what it is. This is the closest I could find on wildwinds:
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/claudius_II/RIC_0015.jpg
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The portrait looks like Gallienus to me-- small chin, pinched features, and I think I see a bit of neck beard.
     
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  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..hehe..my thoughts too..^^
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    To the right of Aequitas is probably a workshop number VI (?). I'll let you research the question of whether you want to disagree with TIF on the emperor or not. I could suggest the general rule of disagreeing with TIF in areas in which she is not expert. Your goal is to develop a gut feeling for things like small chin, pinched features, and neck beard without actually considering those features too seriously. You want to develop the abiliity to recognize these 200 some Romans rather like you do your Uncle Fred who you haven't seen for a few years. Try an acsearch on both emperors and Aequitas and see what you see. There are several mints and other variations so you may want to see more coins than the two below (from my trade stock). Without legends, one of these should look like Claudius and one Gallienus. Ask your son if he can explain what is 'odd' about the Claudius below.
    rq2105zz2854.jpg rp1580zz2408.jpg
     
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  6. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I agree on the neck beard .. try RIC 159 ...there are a few variants.
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Claudius portraits -- like Gallienus -- can be all over the map, depending on the mint issuing them.

    Claudius II CONCORD EXER antoninianus.jpg Claudius II GENIVS AVG Antoninianus.JPG Claudius II IOVI STATORI.jpg Claudius II Providentia.jpg Claudius II RESTITVTOR ORBIS Antoninianus.jpg Claudius II SALVS AVG Isis and sistrum.jpg Claudius II SPES PVBLICA Antoninianus.JPG
     
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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..mystery coins can be so much fun...they can be anything you fancy(with exceptions) for the moment, until you know for sure what they are by either some device, dead giveaway or general consensus...this one was such a coin to me, @TIF told me what it was, but i wasn't convinced until @dougsmit pointed out the control device on the reverse. it was more magical and fun when i didn't know tho..:clown: Gallenius ae coins 002.JPG Gallenius ae coins 004.JPG Gallienus bronze.
     
  9. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming there's no statute of limitations on "mystery coins."

    I recently got a new Gallienus in an small odd lot from eBay. Since I did not see a definitive answer on this thread, I'm posting it now. As TIF and Doug were hinting, I think this may match the OP (the VI in the reverse field being the clincher, I think):

    Gallienus Aequitas VI Lot Sep 2020 (0).jpg

    Gallienus Æ Antoninianus
    (261-262 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    GALLIENVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right / AEQVITAS AVG, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae, VI in right field.
    RIC 159 var. (bust / field mark)
    Göbl 0500q.
    (3.72 grams / 20 x 16 mm)
     
  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    It looks like Gallienus to me, as well.
     
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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I can’t believe I posted this 2 years ago! I, and FFIVN, have learned so much in that time. This forum and its members have been wonderful!
     
  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..haha! i just was looking at a Gallenius coin for sale :p
     
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  13. Cachecoins

    Cachecoins Historia Moneta

    I would know that portrait in almost any condition. :)
     
  14. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Talking about my original post?

    If so....well so would I....NOW! 2 years ago, I had been collecting ancients for like 2 months at best. Cut me some slack :p
     
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  15. Cachecoins

    Cachecoins Historia Moneta

    Oh...I was just saying he is one of those portraits that is unmistakable...I am sure these days you know quite a few of them....Nero...Maximinus Thrax....Gordian III....Vespasian....so many up until you get to the later emperors where you need a bit more experience and a legible inscription doesn't hurt
     
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  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    He definitely is. I will admit, I had a hard time differentiating between him and Claudius II when starting out.
     
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  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i had hopes/dilusions/fanasties mine was of his son Solonnius..ah the ball bat of reality..:arghh::rolleyes:
     
  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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