1964 proof no mint mark

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  1. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Large date cent.........
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  4. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Yes, be skeptical.

    FYI, there are hundreds of 1964 Philly sets on ebay.

    Also available in "Any Quantity" from Apmex.
     
  5. COCollector

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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If you take everything that has been posted there about coins and tally it up.
    It would tally to less than a grain of salt.
     
  7. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I got that presented to me already. Only certain places are valid I suppose and I guess anybody who can post to youtube makes it invalid. I think I understand.
     
  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    There is some good stuff on YouTube. You just have to wade through the weeds to find it .. ie, you'll have to differentiate from the junk to the stuff that actually is valuable information. But most of it is junk.
     
  9. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Okay. That's true. Lots of garbage to wade through certainly.
     
  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    biggest problem is most of it is totally wrong. A video may show a normal 1970 S penny and declare it's a full DD cent. So anytime anyone sees a normal 1970 S, they declare that it's a DD because of the misinformation. So they come here and believe it's a DD .. sometimes they support it as if every one here is wrong and their one source is right.
     
  11. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    True enough. I think most that come here doing as you describe respond mostly out of their lack of knowledge and only get excited thinking they have 'the big one' only to have their hopes instantly squashed by people that actually do know that they indeed do not have the 'big one'. Clearly there are some here that exhibit great depth in that which they are speaking about. I think some get 'jaded' in a sense and tend to 'think' they know everything thus coming off a bit arrogant and that puts off many that are just getting into the hobby. I will forever remain in the group of non experts simply because I could never 'catch up' to the knowledge and experience some here obviously have and so I have to include myself with those that are just learning despite being into the hobby for some time now. I know I get offended easily here and am sure that too is obvious. I only wish maybe those that weren't so experienced could get the terms correct and avoid the offensive posture they assume so easily but it's all part of the learning curve. I know I'm still afraid to ask some things in fearing stepping into something that would be misinterpreted or offensive to someone else. It gets tiring and hinders interest in the hobby IMHO.
     
  12. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I have had a few dealers that I know that are afraid to sell a coin to me I am interested in because they are afraid they missed something - as if it is a rare variety they don't know, or didn't see, or they may have graded it too lowly.
    If you have a price on it, then you should honor it to one at that price if you offered it to another. If you don't know, then pull it and find out. I am not there to teach a dealer.
     
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  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Ask questions in the form of questions, not statements and you'll get your answers.

    If you venture into the "errors" and "what's it worth" sections you'll see TONS if these issues. Think of the ppl responding the same; over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. It get's old quite quickly.

    But if you read those threads, you'll learn a lot of real damage vs errors.

    If you even research online of (a) how dies are made and thus how DDs are made (yes made, not an afterwards error), (b) how they made the metal strips for the coins and how errors from those can occur, (c) how the minting process works [check for video of proofs as those are done slowly …. and much easier to see]. Then you'll have a good understanding. Every "error" after those 3 steps is not an error but damage.

    I'm not very experienced by comparison of many coin dealers, TPG graders, etc here. But I've learned a lot by learning the above process and using common sense when you see ppls coins of how it could have gotten to that state after the minting process.
     
  14. Curious Coin

    Curious Coin Active Member

    I find many things amusing that are not necessarily amusing, just my temperament I suppose.
    I'm sure I've offended some in my very short time here though not intentionally but out of desire of a good natured debate and definitive knowledge acquisition.
    As for "the big one"? Of course we all wish to see something coveted or even new and unusual. However for me other than seeing it and experiencing it has little interest to me monetarily. I keep very few things that have been verified but rather prefer to return them to circulation so that someone else can experience finding known and documented errors.
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Bloody well right........:)

     
  16. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    I do that thing occasion myself. I sometimes ask a question I could probably look up the answer to but instead do it here. I think a great topic for debate would be what to rename the site if that had to be. I think that if every collector (new, old or somewhere in between) saw the name of the website as "The Most Experienced Coin Collectors" or "Advanced Coin Collectors", many (including myself) would not seek to participate in the forum at all. I think they would instead probably look for something less intimidating 'looking' at the outset. I think the most 'serious' collectors here often get irritated with those that are only seeking knowledge to begin with and they don't proceed in the most correct manner and yes since they've 'seen it all' repeatedly they themselves become unhappy with those people. I think if people want a forum where only the most serious collectors share information with only other more serious collectors (however you want to build that criteria) then maybe renaming the forum into something less inviting as suggested. That way, collectors of a certain caliber engage with only those of a similar caliber. That starts with a name. Instead collectors of many different 'levels' come in here and then get blasted for what they don't know and because it was already written somewhere in here and they should somehow know better. Instead what happens is those with vast knowledge are quick to jump on those of lesser skills and people of both types develop an attitude towards the each other. That's sad and that's kind of where I find myself currently. I'm afraid of infringing on some rule that I didn't realize (having myself been banned for a lengthy stretch and still not knowing exactly what it was that got me banned), stepping on some land mine I didn't think was a big deal.
    So Clawcoins, I don't think of you as so much on the 'other side' if you will as I originally assumed largely because you took the time to explain your reasoning and I get it and appreciate your position. I can also say I've lost interest since joining because of what I just described and probably should have simply browsed the forum without joining as I used to for many years. Joining it isn't what I thought it was. That's my choice, I know. I also know I'm tired of trying to avoid minefields and am losing interest since joining.
    Anyway, long way round but that's what I see here and one contact was considering the same thing I am. While I know there won't be any great volume of knowledge lost should I depart, I think my perspective is shared by many newer people in the hobby and is worth thought. The 'fun' I thought it would be engaging such experienced hasn't materialized for (at least not yet).
     
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  17. Jose Villavicencio

    Jose Villavicencio New Member

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    Excuse me I have this 1964 nickel don’t have mint mark or the initials
     

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  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You'd have to take it out of the package and photograph it better.
    A 1964 proof can retail for as much as $3 so it's not really valuable.
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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It appears to be in a Littleton package and a typical brilliant proof. Probably not worth more than a dollar. There are no initials because the initials were not added to the Jefferson nickel until 1966.
     
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  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I think that ultra Cameo Proof example would sell for a good deal more than $3, but the run of the mill pieces are not worth any more than that.
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I have given 6 to 8 for nicely toned examples.
     
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