GTG: 1883 Hawaii Half

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  1. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    My first guess the grade (unless I forgot about one o_O). . .

    This isn’t my coin, but I’ve been on the hunt for one. So, how would you grade it?

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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    AU-Details. Cleaning scratches.
     
  4. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I’ll go MS 64

    I’m guessing those aren’t scratches on the coin but die polishing lines (or something on the holder)...the coin also looks semi-prooflike.

    I had a Hawaiian Quarter that was semi-pl (and now have a toned Quarter). I’m a fan of these and think that you’ll enjoy an example for your collection.
     
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  6. ddoomm1

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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I dunno........a lot of 'noise' in the fields on the obverse.........dry cleaned.
     
  8. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    The obverse looks like it may have been scratched onto sand? If it came from Hawaii I think that could be a plausible explanation for the hairlines.
     
  9. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    It’s been a long day (up since 4:30 AM) and I’m tired, so here’s the early reveal.

    I was also in the cleaned/scratches camp. Anyone other than @ddddd and @ddoomm1 thinking otherwise?

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  10. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    These coins interest me and I’ve seen a fair number of them, often with ugly (IMHO) toning. Maybe that’s why I’m leaning toward cleaned/scratched and not die polish lines.
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    You got the hiccups?
     
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  12. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Holy smokes, where’d all those duplicate posts come from? Help Mods? @lordmarcovan
     
  13. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    I was hoping the Mods would catch that before @green18!
     
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  14. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Cut me a break @green18, I was just trying to make a point. ;)
     
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  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I did consider die polish lines, but it looked more like steel wool.
     
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It's difficult to tell from the photos, but based on the grade it must be hairline scratches or contact marks. The full coin photos (especially the reverse) make the coin look much better than the grade indicates.
     
  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Here is the quarter that I owned that was semi-pl in hand (photos were meant to show the pl qualities):

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  18. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

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  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    These coins sometimes come in a prooflike condition. The obverse does not look like cleaning - it looks like die polish.

    Normally, when you see cleaning hairlines, they are parallel. These are random - not an effective cleaning method. Also, I don't see evidence of the lines on the portrait or lettering, as you would expect on a cleaned coin. So yeah, I'm going to go with a semi-prooflike obverse.

    Based on your first pics, I would have guessed 63. However, the slab shot shows a lot more disturbance on the obverse fields. I probably would still go 62 because that is an attractive coin.
     
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  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

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  21. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Ditto what Physics said.
    I was at 63/64 until i saw all the rub/ chatter in the slab photo. Still better than a 61 imo.
    I spotted polish lines that run through the O & U so it looks kosher to my eye.
     
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