Cyrrhestica, Beroea Tetradrachm

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  1. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Many years ago I acquired a handsome tetradrachm from Cyrrhestica, Beroea (modern day Aleppo, Syria). The coin is 26 mm in diameter, weighs 14.80 gm, & is in choice mint state. This ancient city has a history going back at least 5,000 years & has been occupied by a number of different civilizations. Serious damage has been done to this city with the on-going civil war, & many of the important archaeological sites have been destroyed. One thing that has puzzled me about this coin is the strange winged animal between the eagles legs. Does anyone know what this creature is? The emperor Macrinus is depicted on the obverse, AD 217-218. 100_6101.JPG 100_6104.JPG
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Have you looked for a match on wildwinds?
     
  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice coin and a very neat little symbol. I would have said Chicken Little facing, but most catalogers seem to go with 'winged animal' or 'bird' or 'flanking bird' facing. I like the description used in this old CNG Mail Bid auction :
    "The mint symbol of Beroea has never been identified. "Goony bird" seems as apt a description as any."
     
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  5. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I can't help narrow it down any further from winged creature/bird but regardless, it (and the other examples at a variety of angles) are ripe for a @TIF animation!
     
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  6. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    The large eyes make me think it is a stylized owl.
     
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  7. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Nicholas Molinari, that thought crossed my mind too. The wings, large head & eyes, & front facing view similar to early Athenian coins suggests an owl. Maybe there was a historical link between Athens & Beroea, or maybe the owl has a mythological significance to this city....
     
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  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Not yet.
     
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Du bist auch.
     
  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Whatever it is seems to be inspiration for Miss Prissy, Egghead Jr, and Chicken Little :D

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    I love the CNG "goony bird" description. Here's a real gooney bird:

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    The large eyes do make it seem like an owl but the body looks eagle-ish.

    Maybe it's a crested eagle hawk? Hmm, nope, those aren't found in Syria.

    Best guess: Long eared owl. They are found in Syria.

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  12. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Fantastic coin
     
  13. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Pishpash, my coin looks like Prieur 891, the way the reverse inscription ends looks the same. Wildwinds has some interesting examples, especially the last coin being a mule with a Caracalla reverse. All the bird-like creatures look different.
     
  14. Have you looked up references for Farfetch'd?
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  15. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I am surprised this coin has not been featured on cable TV as additional proof of ancient aliens among us.
     
  16. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Very beautiful design!
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I don't take the 'eyes' as eyes based on past experience with the critter like the one on my Caracalla. Bellinger, in his 1940 work on these, devoted a paragraph to the question ending with the statement: "the question is immaterial, the mint is sure." The highlights of his discussion include: "Speaking as an ornithologist, I protest that it is not a bird" and "Never having seen a griffon from the front, I cannot say how much this looks like one."
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That is hilarious! :D
     
  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..are they?!?... i've got a piece i bought years ago that was listed as a Horace( i knew it wasn't) that depicts an owl with ears made of stone.. perhaps it may be a item from that area? what do you think.. it remains an enigma and one of my most treasured pieces, regardless of origin.. stone Owl statuette 001.JPG stone Owl statuette 002.JPG
     
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