What's wrong with this 31 S?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Phoenix21, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, I've come across this cent, and I'm on the edge with it. It is very cheap, IMO, a very good price. Mine for $85, shipping included. Except, I don't know. Seems almost too good to be true. Thoughts? Opinions? I always get a little weary when purchasing a big coin of the internet, please pardon me if this comes across dumb. All help will be appreciated. Thanks!

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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    My honest opinion, Phoenix, where else do you think you're going to find one of these? I think it's a fair price. If it's in your range, I don't even care if it was rubbed or cleaned (and I'm not saying it was). I guess the way you ask the question (you're leading the witnesses, counselor!), you make us want to find something against the prospective purchase, but I can't, not on a key like this. Hope this helps. And if you think it's dumb, well, you ask a dumb question, you get a... (hey, settle down, you started this! :D). Good luck.
     
  4. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    My knee-jerk reaction was, "that is an incredibly ugly coin". LOL, seriously, there's something about it I don't like. Not sure what though.
     
  5. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Phoenix, I like it and I dont think youll find one for your set for cheaper. But that damage to the rim looks recent. Too bad that happened, I bet the guy selling it did the damage and thats why hes selling it cheap.
     
  6. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    the mm looks wrong like it was added idk maybe not
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    The date and MM are all wrong IMHO. The mintmark is the wrong type for this year--it could be because of the scan.
    And the date--the 1 looks like it was reworked, and the 3 is taller than the 9. From the pic's I see of 31-S the 3 is just as tall....also the middle point of the 3 looks sharper than normal.

    Again---this could all be because of a scan making it look funny---if you can check the coin out in hand get a good set of pic's from this year and go over them. If you don't feel good about the coin PASS.
    I think for alittle more $$ you could get a nice AU/UNC. I got one for $125 and it was later graded MS64 by NGC.

    Speedy
     
  8. EdsCoin

    EdsCoin Senior Member

    It's basically just an ugly coin with fresh rim damage. I'd pass if I were you.JMO
     
  9. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I'd also pass...
    something I just dont like about it,. lol
     
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    IMO if you have misgivings about a coin, skip it.
    Trust your 6th sense.
    Probably right a lot more often than wrong.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    OK Dick Tracy, you talked me into it. If you blow it up, you can see it. What's that S sitting on, a pothole? What's that underneath it? It looks a little fat, too, in the midsection. And the second 1 is out in right field, someplace, it's a little too far from the 3. Could have been a 4, but not necessarily. Could be some freak variety, too, but not necessarily. But let's say it is a fake. His issue, now, is, is it worth his money to have an example of that? He ought to see if he can find some of these on ha.com, and compare this area. If he wants the McCoy, I do think I was a little too endearing, as there are questions, here, that need to be resolved. But, if it is bogus, I'd stay in the game, and try to talk this seller down. Mention the nick in the rim, and the overall lackluster appearance. Even if this isn't genuine, I can still see it selling at the right price.
     
  12. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    31-s cent

    i'm getting bad vibes. if it were me i'd pass. anyway i have a nice 65 example!

    steve
     
  13. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Wanna buy a bridge? Or how about a 20 foot pole....


    Stay away from this one. I think the S has been added. Its way to flat and there is a major crater under it.
     
  14. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I'd throw in my comments about that coin but they would be repeating what has already been said.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all for the opinions! They are really appreciated. I'm going to skip this coin, and purchase a few others I need. Just had a bad feeling, glad I didn't jump the gun. :D Thanks for the help, and if anyone wants it, here's the link. Thaks all.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    That coin is not genuine....there was a 09-S tonight on the bay with a similar mm, be careful......
     
  17. luc87

    luc87 Lmcoins

    I agree with Jim M the s was added.
     
  18. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    I would never buy a key coin raw. Especially on ebay.
     
  19. grizz

    grizz numismatist


    or a slabbed one for that matter...............could very well be counterfeit.

    steve
     
  20. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Something pretty wrong with it.
     
  21. jnpjresq

    jnpjresq New Member

    I do not like the 2nd "1" either - both "1"'s in the date should be nearly the same - they look different to me. The blotch under the mintmark also causes me concern. Could be that its just the picture - but you never know until you see it in person. I would pass on this one.
     
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