Draped bust type coin (damaged pretty bad)

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Eric L, Aug 19, 2018.

  1. Eric L

    Eric L New Member

    I am not even sure the exact kind of draped bust this coin is due to the extent of damage. The year on the coin is 1800, diameter of coin is about 3cm to add some additional information. I am new to coin collecting, in fact my father found a bunch of old coins in a safe in the garbage. So my questions are:

    1.) What exactly do I have here, could it be fake?

    2.) Is this coin worth anything at all in its current state?

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  3. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    The fact the wear is so uneven gives me unwanted suspicion. Of what, I don't know but the wear pattern is just strange
     
  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Difficult to make out any details on my phone. That does appear to be an 1800 dollar. And that is a desirable coin. As worn as it is my bet is that is an honest coin. I would doubt a fake in that state. I think you have something there.
     
  5. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Dollar?
     
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  6. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I don’t think we minted a half in 1800 did we?
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Randy, is this a Dollar coin ?

    half dollar is 32.5mm - not minted in 1800
    dollar is 39.5mm

    or could it be a copper large cent at 29mm ?
    the reverse looks more like a large cent to me with the wreath?
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Oh jeez!! It’s a copper? Good night. Time for me to hit the sack apparently. So sorry OP. Disregard all I said there.
     
  9. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Or you may show the OP what a nice example looks like...with all that new shiny plastic lol :)
     
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  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

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  11. Eric L

    Eric L New Member

    I can tell you the coin diameter approximately using a ruler, which comes out to be 29mm with extra change so I am gonna guess it is the copper large cent.
     
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    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

  13. Eric L

    Eric L New Member

    If I were to make a guess type 1, what does this mean, does this coin have any value above melt in the condition it is in? Here is a photo, the placement of the hair tip as well as the shape (to me) seems to match type 1.

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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    your image is pretty bad to see anything with it (at least for me)

    here are my recommendations for taking coin pictures with a cell phone

    1 - go to a well lit area. The brighter the light the faster the "shutter" speed of the camera which minimized motion blur.

    2 - put the coin on a FLAT surface (not your hand). And take pics of both sides, and full coin pics too

    3 - If you can, use a box or something to put the cellphone on and point the camera lens Directly DOWN to the coin (not at an angle).

    4 - make sure you crop the image (get rid of the dead space) before posting it.

    5- don't be in a hurry. It usually requires you to redo images .. we'll probably ask to redo images that we cannot see details of. So might as well do it right the first time and take your time. If you cannot see details in the images, neither can we.

    6 - Also make sure the cell phone if FAR Enough AWAY from the coin so that it can focus on it. And make sure it does focus on the coin rather than the background. If the cell phone is to close the images will be fuzzy.

    If I have the time I'll put dark coins (copper, etc) on a white surface (even plain white paper) and bright coins (clad, nickel, silver, etc) on a black surface (like black paper).
     
  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    if you perused that link that I provided, it has values on it.
    at this grade the different styles has no valuation difference.
     
  16. Eric L

    Eric L New Member

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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Huh. I would've recommended the exact opposite -- if you shoot a dark coin on a white surface, cameras will tend to underexpose the coin (making it too dark to see all detail); if you shoot a bright coin on a dark surface, it'll tend to overexpose the coin. I see this on eBay photos all the time (especially brown cents shot on a white background).

    If you can get the coin to fill most of the frame, it won't be so much of a problem, but doing that is a challenge for most people, too.
     
  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    If the exposure is based on the coin you shouldn't over expose/underexpose the coin. If you exposure control is a large area or based on the background then your exposure will be incorrect.

    I use the contrasting background so that the coin's edges are easily seen.
    but YMMV.
     
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    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

  20. Eric L

    Eric L New Member

    Well would you put this coin at below good condition? So like perhaps $50 maximum or something like that?
     
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    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

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