1817 large cent grade please?

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  1. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    My first large cent and the oldest coin i've ever had...

    could anyone give an estimated grade \ value? Sorry the pics are bad

    I'll get better ones soon.


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  3. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    not very good with grading but i would guess VG-8 and the value $15-$17. thats just the ballpark price not actual. cool looking coin! :thumb: looks kindof dirty but still neat.
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I'd say VG but it looks like it is also corroded. That's the 13-Star variety. Grey Sheet is $28 in VG, $22 in G and $18 in AG.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Fine details, corroded, net VG. Worth about $20.

    Regardless, to think you have in your hand a coin that's almost 200 years old for only $20 seems worth it to me!

    Have fun...Mike

    p.s. I believe that's a N-7 (a R-3 variety), one of the "mouse" varieties (the "large mouse", IIRC), so called because of the "mouselike" die crumbling just above Liberty's hair and below star #8 (counting clockwise from the left of the date). Check the reverse die, and look for a "doublewide" dentil just above the letter N in UNITED to be sure. Here's an auction to compare your coin to:

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19714

    It might also be an N-8 here:

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=244&Lot_No=6121
     
  6. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice coin and I agree F- details, but I am thinking N-8. To me it looks like the 817 has more separation than I see in the N-7 examples. Of course it could be the angle of the picture. In this case you can also see examples on http://www.coinfacts.com. Or post some pictures looking straight down on the coin.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Mark, I flip flopped twice already. ;) The space between the 1 in the date and the first star was the final straw leaning me towards N-7. I'd love to see larger photos to be sure.
     
  8. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    thanks for the opinions! as promised heres the updated pictures - what do you think?
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  9. p91

    p91 Senior Member

  10. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    I think I got a deal on it: $12! In 1917 I bet people were saying 'wow' about this coins age! pretty awsome. we figured out my great, great, great, great grandpa coulda spent this coin.
     
  11. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    VF details, severely corroded, net G.

    Still, for only $12 I'd say you didn't do too bad.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. I'll try and confirm the attribution tomorrow, unless someone beats me to the punch....
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I still think it is a N-8.
     
  15. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Thanks for the information! i've been checking out coinfacts.com and I cant decide if its a n7 or n8 either! but i'm a complete newbie. Thank you so much! This is a really exciting coin for me
     
  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    If you look at coin facts you will see on the N-7 that the 817 on the date is close and on the n-8 the 81 is close while the 1 and 7 are farther from the 81. Still a nice coin!
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon


    I agree. Well done, Mark!
     
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