What role does color play in determining.....

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  1. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    the value of coins. Also high grades that are not error coins but almost flawless and still holds that reddish bronze color and is a copper penny? Well, I have a few and would like to hear your input. I would also appreciate it if someone could verify that the 1960 is a small date rpm.Last but not least, how do you determine a 1990 Philadelphia from the 1990 no S error?
     

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  3. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    the value of coins. Also high grades that are not error coins but almost flawless and still holds that reddish bronze color and is a copper penny? Well, I have a few and would like to hear your input. I would also appreciate it if someone could verify that the 1960 is a small date rpm.Last but not least, how do you determine a 1990 Philadelphia from the 1990 no S error?
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    As a normal, red copper will have a higher value. Early Lincoln cents that are still red, bring strong prices.
     
  5. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    The rare 1990 no s coins are in proof sets. If found in circulation they are the regular Philadelphia minted coins.
     
  6. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    The 1990 no S is a proof coin. Proof coins are recognizable in this era.
     
  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Your 1960-D looks like a large date, It is quite difficult to tell with just a photo.
    That said, there is no value difference between the LG-SM date Denver Cents.
    There is for the Phillidelphia Cent.
    Some collectors books have a hole for each one. Total of 4 holes.

    The No-S 1990 is confusing to a lot of folks. Due to it being inplied that everyone knows that the San Francisco mint only makes Proof coins. Which means the No-S
    1990 Cent is a proof coin which you should only find in a Proof Mint Set of coins.

    And Yes Color and Toning do play a role in determinating value.
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  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    The others have covered quite well the various normal copper colors (toning).
    But there are some coins (more often silver rather than copper coins) that have some colors from the rainbow.
    Those can often be valued higher.
    I don't have any to show because I don't collect them but I can guarantee that there will be plenty of others to show you some very appealing items.
     
  9. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    As @alurid mentions that San Francisco mints only proofs, would someone clarify if this is true even today for the broad range of coins, including the ATB quarters? Thanks.
     
  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Toned = chemical reaction.
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    With copper coins color definitely plays a part in determining value. The see a representation of this all you have to do is look at the TPG price guides as they will show you the difference in value between Red, Red Brown, and Brown.

    The actual value numbers won't be real world accurate for value, but they will show you the difference on a percentage basis well enough.
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    LA_Geezer

    From 1968-1974 they made business strikes and proofs in San Fran (cents).
    The nickels bus. and proofs 68-70.
    Rosies last business S I think was 1955.
    Quarters, 1954.
    With the ATBs I think they make clad proofs and 40% silver proofs.
     
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  13. *coins

    *coins Well-Known Member

    None of those are worth much more than 1 cent, sorry.
    The 1960-D looks like a LD to me.
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The San Francisco Mint does make business strike quality ATB quarters for sale to collectors as well since 2012 roughly 1 to 1.5 million of each. The last s mintmarked coins they made for circulation were the 1980 S SBA dollars. The last coins they made for circulation without a mintmark were 1983 cents.
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    The no S would be a proof not a business strike
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Is all this info in the mints history
     
  17. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

  18. shilines

    shilines Active Member

  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not sure what you mean by the mint's history but yes all the info is true and documented. Most of it is found in bits and pieces scattered about here and there. It can also be found in the mint's annual reports for those who take the time to look them up and read them, pulling a piece from this one and a piece from that one. Some of it can even be found in places like the Red Book, but ya have to take the time to realize what it is you're looking at.
     
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