Mirror Image Reverses

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Two middle bronzes of Faustina II, each with a very similar portrait and identical legends, but with reverses bearing devices that are mirror images of each other.

    If you have other such pairs, I'd love to see them, but don't let this limit you. Post anything you feel is relevant!

    Faustina Jr LAETITIA standing left as.jpg
    Faustina II, AD 147-176.
    Roman Æ dupondius or as, 10.80 g, 24.7 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, AD 161-176.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, draped bust of Faustina II, right, with band of pearls.
    Rev: LAETITIA S C, Laetitia standing facing, head left, holding wreath in right hand and vertical scepter in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 1656; BMCRE 988; Cohen 151; RCV --.

    Faustina Jr LAETITIA standing right as.jpg
    Faustina II, AD 147-176.
    Roman Æ dupondius or as, 8.77 g, 24.7 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, AD 161-176.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, draped bust of Faustina II, right, with band of pearls.
    Rev: LAETITIA S C, Laetitia standing facing, head right, holding vertical scepter in right hand and wreath in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 1657; BMCRE 987; Cohen 152; RCV 5300.
     
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  3. dougsmit

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  4. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    I have a minimus coin like your first one here, Doug, but I think it is imitative. What is the module on the one you show here?
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It is normal size but definitely unofficial.
     
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– BONI EVENTVS, Fides (Bonus Eventus - RIC) standing left holding basket of fruit and corn ears
    Minted in Alexandria, A.D. 194
    References:– RIC 347, BMCRE 321, RSC 66

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    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:–IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– BONI EVENTVS, Fides standing right holding basket of fruit and corn ears
    Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194
    Ref:– BMCRE -. RIC -. RSC -. (Not listed with Fides right)

    2.72g. 17.10mm. 0o

    Additional information from Curtis Clay “Not previously known for Septimius Severus but a reverse die match with a Julia Domna in Vienna”

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very cool! Here's a Julia Domna with Fides left.

    Domna BONI EVENTVS Denarius.jpg
     
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  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    That's an Emesa version.... like mine:-
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    There are also Alexandrian for Domna with Fides. Here is a normal leftie.
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    As far as I am aware the righties are very elusive (mine is possibly the only known for Septimius and I know of a reverse die match in Vienna for Domna) .... my search will likely continue for some years...
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Roman Collector's coin is Syrian (Emesa) and shows a different plate of fruit from the Alexandria coins.
    Alexandria
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    Emesa
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    I have not seen any Domna reverse figure face right except for the Venus from rear coins. The vast majority of Septimius Emesa reverses are also left facing. There are a few that face both ways but the right and left versions are very different designs besides the direction. For example, below are two Virtus figures with different attributes.
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    For the record, I do not understand the abandoning the RIC ID of the figure Bonus Eventus in favor of Fides. There are Fides coins of Septimius with figure nothing like these. Who started that one?
     
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  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    SAECVLI FELICITAS, Isis type?

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  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Another Alexandrian pair...

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, laureate head right
    Rev:– VICT AV-G T-R P COS, Victory walking left, holding wreath in right hand, palm in left
    Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194-195
    Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC -. RSC -. One example known to Bickford-Smith citing Tbilisi A 780, cn the rev. only […]G TR P COS surviving

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    and the more normal (of which I have a couple)

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– P M TR P II COS II, Victory advancing right, holding wreath and palm
    Minted in Alexandria, A.D. 194
    References:– BMCRE -., RIC 350B (Rare - citing Vienna), RSC -.

    3.08g. 17.59mm. 0o
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    2.68g. 18.23mm. 0o
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Sorry, I was talking about Emesa and Alexandria and completely forgot the later coins.
     
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    This is pretty interesting. I don't have any lefty/righty combinations yet.
     
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