Lessons in problem coins: Whizzed.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    Whizzed is whizzed. You are over thinking this.

    Whizzing refers to any mechanical surface manipulation of a coin that involves the movement of metal usually to smooth the fields and/or to simulate luster.
     
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  3. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    For once, we agree.
     
  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It HAD to happen. :D
     
  5. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    I like the 'simulate luster via mechanical movement of metal' definition.
    'Smooth fields' seems like something else entirely.
     
  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes sir! Smoothing sounds to me what you might do NEXT after you found out you've overdone the whizzing.
     
  7. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    I should probably stay out of this thread but while looking to upgrade my Mercury set I came across this micro-S. Whizzed? It looks like a fairly egregious example to my untrained eye but I'm always looking to learn.

    Whizzed Mercury.jpg Whizzed Mercury Rev.jpg
     
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  8. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Looks overdipped or polished to me.
     
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  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I would agree. The moved metal on the surfaces are quite apparent. Makes it easy to see what they were trying to accomplish by imparting a bogus luster onto the fields.
     
  10. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    The dime, to these noobie eyes, looks polished.
    It doesn't appear whizzed to me.
    Again, noobie here.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The lines seen in the fields of that dime were caused by die wear, not the polishing.
     
  12. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    Help me out here: I looked at the dime and thought "not whizzed" because the lines seemed consistent through the inside of 'D' in United; furthermore, those don't even look like the type of lines made by whizzing to me.

    Is that a good way to evaluate, what am I missing?
     
  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Look at that chromed out portrait, though. That mercury dime has been polished .
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You're right on both counts. But the primary thing is that lines caused by die wear have a very distinct and unique look. But one that is very common at the same time.
     
  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    Start looking at modern philly roosevelts. Many have this same sort of die wear.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, that's why the last word in my comment was - polishing.
     
  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes, the devices here HAVE been polished, no doubt at all to me. Now, the fields. They look like there MAY have been some “help” given to the flow lines, but Doug’s most likely correct here. The lines are not “impossible” to be natural, just a little extreme. So, given that they CAN be okay, calling it whizzed would be unfair and unprovable at least.
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes, they were CRANKING those babies out.
     
  19. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    In a closer examination of the devices it is clear they have been polished using an 8 oz. Silver Shine Polishing Liquid (by Blitz). The silver polish was an old, previously opened bottle, stored at moderate temperatures for about two years before being opened to polish this dime. The towel used to wipe the polish from the coin was a paper towel but I cannot tell if the brand was Brawny or Sparkle. I'm sure most of you have already discerned the polisher was a tiny Asian woman, mid-30's, living in Manhattan - I hesitate to state that detail because I don't care to insult your intelligence.
     
  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Ahh, but what had she eaten for dinner the evening before? Huh? Huh? Amateurs. :hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Question for all. I’m seeing SOMETHING in the field patch north of E PLURIBUS UNUM. Ideas?
     
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