Byzantine Experts Wanted For ID Help

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  1. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Although Byzantine experts do not get called upon very often here on CoinTalk, you possess knowledge that is very specialized and not widely known to either Classical or Medieval collectors. For that reason you are a valuable asset held in high regard by this forum.

    What can you tell me about this coin? It has a weight of 4.2g and is 25.75mm in diameter at the widest point.

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    Thank you in advance!
     
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  3. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    It appears to my (untrained in the way of all things Byzantine) eye to be a AV Hyperpyron of Andronicus II and Michael IX, issued AD 1295-1320 SB-2396.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It looks like a Palaiologos style and has more clear letters than most but these are so far out of my area I have no idea.
     
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  7. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Aethelred posts a coin asking for help, then ID's his own coin.:bag:
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Is that like talking to yourself...I do that too...
     
  9. Severus Alexander

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    The four towers on the obverse (as opposed to six) means it's late in Andronicus II/Michael IX, or it could be Andronicus II/Andronicus III, or (rarely) John V/John VI. Enough legend is visible on the right to see it's Mike there, so: Andy & Mike. The sigla on the obverse confirm this ID, there's a star at 8 o'clock above a K at 7 o'clock. That fits sigla 183-189 in Simon Bendall's paper here.

    These are very difficult and it's a good thing that there are several indicators that can be used!
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Did that walk into your shop recently? Must've been a refreshing change, if so.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Sorry, I was suckered again. I really need to pay more attention to the names and dates rather than assuming.
     
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  12. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Yes, it came in yesterday.
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That has to make up for the last 2,000 Bicentennial quarters and roadkill modern "error" coins, huh?
     
  14. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I love what I do and look forward to every new day, but the least favorite part of it is the "I have been looking through my pennies and I've found 114 double dies, I want to show you every one of them."
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Wait a minute...doesn't that belong in the "Why I Left CoinTalk" thread :)?
     
  16. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    Dang, of course the day after I come in! Oh well, I only want one of his predecessor.
     
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  17. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    The best part is when you tell them it is just a cent and they can spend it and they tell you "no, it you look at it in direct sunlight, upside down, with only your left eye, while standing on your right foot and rubbing your belly, you can see doubling."

    Priceless!
     
  18. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Timing can be everything!:facepalm:
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    DANG...don't give away secrets :)
     
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