Can somebody with some die knowledge give me an opinion?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hoky77, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    I got this cent as a young and mostly broke collector and always figured it had enviro damage. Now I am wondering if maybe it came from rusted dies. The striations don't seem to affect the rims. It appears that the higher parts of the die are affected and the recessed parts are mostly unaffected. It also looks like there are grooves in the die above the hair and tiara.
     

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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Interesting question, welcome to CT...I want to see the answer too.
     
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  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I bet @Eduard may be able to shed some of his esteemed copper knowledge here.
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    You were correct in assuming that this was some sort of damage. There two options here: either this queen was buried in the ground for a very long time and then cleaned when it was recovered, or this poor coin was subjected to some acidic treatment. I'm inclined to believe, based on the color, that this coin was in the ground. Perhaps some collector found it and saved it. It is still fairly attractive, however damaged.
     
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  6. Wheatmaster101

    Wheatmaster101 U.S. Cent Collector

    I agree with environmental damage.
     
  7. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

     
  8. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    I agree with the grounder theory, I found the smooth rims perplexing though as usually the entire surface is affected. Wired brushed and toned back?
     
  9. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Environmental damage to the coin, not the dies. There are some large cent varieties that were struck from severely rusted dies, but this is not one.

    From the looks of it, the damage is old, the coin has retoned evenly and been handled enough to smooth down the high points evenly, i.e. the rim, leaves of wreath, chin/bust point, lower hair curl, etc.

    In terms of cause, these were sometimes also put into jars of pickles, maybe to help keep their color. Another possible cause of coins like these.
     
  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    CM Security protects your privacy. Im goining to guess acid cleaning. But thats to easy of A guess
     
  11. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    It feels like it was a metal detecting find. It looks like it had been in the ground and dug up. The surfaces were corroded, so the digger cleaned it up and carried it as a pocket piece as a reminder of his find. Carrying it in the pocket would explain the recoloring and the wearing down of the rims and high points. I bet the coin was lost not long after it was first struck, it might have been UNC or possible AU details when it was recovered.
     
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