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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Don't think I had ever seen this TPG...

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like I could do the same from my home. All I need is to order a stamp, create the paper on my computer and place it in a screw down tomb.
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, but its got that red stamp and a number and....
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    LOL. If it helps I can recreate that red stamp, a number and, well just tell me what you want and I'll make it your own personal slab and label. :)
     
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  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Well, it’s at least a little more fancy than the typical basement slab for a US coin.
     
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  7. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    I find it a bit weird to write the grams as just "3" without any decimals, I mean they are pretty important as well, especially when it comes from an organization like the US Numismatic Arts Foundation.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I think it's a rather attractive and interesting display, if the coin could be removed at will.
     
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  9. R*L

    R*L Well-Known Member

    Google lead me to this discussion about the enigmatic USNAF https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=325350

    And includes a link to an associated facebook page which had the following

    "Welcome to the "United States Numismatic Arts Foundation" page. The purpose of this page will be to preview coins that are certified by the U.S.N.A.F. and encapsulated in these historic holders. Currently very little is known about this company. I will update information as it becomes available."

    No view as to the legitimacy (or lack thereof) of all this but I would suggest caveat emptor.
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We all see different things in the carnage of this trainwreck. I am more bothered by them going out on a limb and dating the coin to a 400 year spread than dropping the weight decimals. I hope TIF is aware of what she is suggesting. Please, oh please, think twice before breaking that seal and voiding the certification. :)

    When someone writes the history of numismatic entombment, this rare item could be worth tens of dollars. Not everyone will have a 1987 proto-slab.
     
  11. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    usnaf3.jpg usnaf1.jpg usnaf2.jpg It's interesting to see that the year of 1987 was very productive for USNAF!
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Now I see that TIF is right since the seals are just a bit of tape residue on the original specimen and on the '8 reals' (I wonder if it is a reale 8 reals or a real 8 reales???). They surely once had stickeres, too.:banghead:
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    LOL! The CoinCommunity post and link were very interesting. Points to these scammers for creativity :D

    Hey... I think they should partner with Certified Ancient Coin Acceptance. Those USNAF slabs would look so nice with a green CACA bean!
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    In post #10 they grade the Walker and the Morgan as XF.
    Need better pics but they look MS to me.
    I do like the idea of grading both sides.
     
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  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    CACA in Spanish makes an interesting translation to English. Who says scammers don’t have a sense of humor?
     
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  16. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    The OP dirham is a bit worn at the right side of the obverse (where the date is). But it may be a Samanid dirham of about 900 AD. Or is it Abbasid?
     
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  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    In this case, I'm the scammer... er... joker. It's part of an elaborate joke :D Amazingly, almost a hundred people have liked that page and are following it, despite no new posts since I built the site four years ago. I think only 3 or 4% of those followers and likers realized it was a joke. I had forgotten about the FB page and am baffled to see that people are following it.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an...mates-vs-prices-realized.244196/#post-1884558
     
  18. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Haha, the linen style insert adds luxurious legitimacy, too.

    This caught me off guard. Thanks for the laugh.
     
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  19. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    They were trying to create a new grading system, based on a 100 point scale. The Morgan got an 87 total score, which is equivalent to MS65.
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  20. R*L

    R*L Well-Known Member

    Ooo thanks for the close up of the label wcoins. I had missed that USNAF Grading is not an opionion as to the commercial value of any coin. That is a very important disclaimer as understandably most coin buyers would be very concerned to know whether or not USNAF Grading meant that the commercial value of their coin was an opionion or just a standard onion!
     
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  21. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You imp!:D
     
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