You could send it in for 30$ to find out it's still a cent. But keep in mind that a working die strikes thousands of coins not just one. And as many times the 6 Billion 1982 D copper and Zincolns cents have been looked at by the very experienced people accross the world and CT and your the only one to find this "DDR" ! I don't think anyone here is ingoreing the S in picture. I do believe @Pickin and Grinin asked for a better photo of it. I've been in your shoes and I know how it feels when you think you got this 200% and it's not. The people here are very knowledgeable but let's see if we can get @Fred Weinberg to take a look. BTW he is one of the leading people on mint errors. And one of the authors for error-ref.com
If @Coin Addict 2018 isn't willing to give a better view of the coin, to support his view, then I only have the photos given. The coin shows too much evidence towards MD to come to any other conclusion, angled photos deceive the eye. They create illusions because the eye cannot justify any depth of field. As far as the S goes, I see flat and shelf like on the parts that are in focus, that says it is Machine doubled and not worth this mush effort.
Well Pickin and Grinin . The specific photos that I've been sharing with coin talk so far are photos that I've taken to specifically show Depth ... So how these photos could not show depth is a complete mystery to me . However if they aren't showing Depth as you say then hopefully these photos can demonstrate greater Depth for you . But please be aware that they are ENLARGED to show greater depth and details for expert analysis of the SPLIT SERIF that is on the tail of that S which you're seeing and the RAISED DOUBLING that is there as well in order solidify the fact that there is DD on those specific devices ... The rest of the coin is still a slight mystery to me but the again maybe it's like another coin enthusiast in another coin circle shared with me yesterday in which he said there is actually a 1983 Lincoln Cent that bares BOTH MD and DD which I didn't find out from anyone until yesterday ... But anyway . Without further ado ... Here's some full images along with a few other depth photos ...
Hopefully each of these photos will show greater depth of ALL THE DEVICES THAT IVE POINTED OUT . And not just those that appear to have MD .
I am sorry , but it is MD. The term flat/raised is relative. Certainly even mechanical doubling can be slightly raised , as usually the action does not happen exactly on the bottom nor on the top. So yes it is somewhat raised. or we would not see it, but it is not near the height of the main device as would be true of a true doubled die. Also, on your examples, where the doubling effect occurs, the main device is reduced in thickness parallel to the doubling due to the die smashing or moving that section. That doesn't occur in most of the types of true doubling. And the appearance of split serifs can occur in MD due to the angle of the shearing effect, so it isn't a de facto identification of a DD. IMO. Jim
If anyone pays very close attention to the last photo which I have been reposting over and over again ... Then i am 100% certain that they can't help but notice that the top of the S merges EVENLY together almost as if it is one coin which I am logically assuming comes from time and wear just like with other DD cases and you can also still clearly see that there is BOLD raised doubling that is intertwined with a split serif at the tail of the S as well . And so with that one that is the reason that I know that there is classic DD on that specific area . However as for the rest of the coin I will leave it up to the best guesser's or the experts who genuinely knows a thing or two about the different variations of true double die coins and not just what some of us may read or post from other websites ... Heck like I said . I didn't know that there is a 1983 with MD and DD until yesterday and I'm sure that most coin lovers probably don't even know or don't believe that that can even exist ... Or atleast I didn't until now .
Just send it to Fred Weinberg. He attributes them for a small fee, But don't be surprised if it comes back just as we have said. Machine doubled and some die deterioration. Good luck
Yes Booksb4coins ... Although I thought it was very obvious from the other photos if it isn't then i will happily try my best to point it out again .... There is a very visible NOTCH that is showing that there is Two Separate raised S's and the notch is located right before the very tail of the S on the inside . And although it's gonna be a little blurry I've cropped the photo for you so that you can atleast see the OUTLINE OF IT EVEN BIGGER ... But in anycase I'm sure that if you look closely you should no problem seeing the NOTCH ...
Oh and thanks to one of the other coin enthusiast who couldn't tell the DEPTH of the raised doubling on the S the DEPTH can also be seen as well and is easy to see
That S shows distinct MD at least on portions, I'd also guess because the photos are blurry that it is Die deterioration also. If this is such a big deal send it to get verified.
Well because I've learned to do my homework on things before jumping to conclusions ... And I've thoroughly explained my views . I guess I will humbly drop the topic . In anycase thanks for all the input coin talk members . And you all have a blessed night .
As with your last thread, sir; perhaps you should invest a little time to become more familiar with the terms you use, and is particularly true if you wish to continue dishing attitude over very simple questions.
Well I'm no expert and I didnt have an attitude but I assumed that the term Notch means an indentation or incision on the edge of something like it states in the dictionary . But I'm always open to learning more as long as it's coming from a genuine place and a genuine person . So apologize if it was misinterpreted .