A few UnCut Sheets,, nothing special..

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by RickieB, Dec 31, 2007.

  1. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Here are a few uncut sheets I have hanging around...
    The nicest is the $20 with a 3 digit SN *

    RickieB
     

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  3. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Nice man! Gotta love the uncut sheets. Be cool to have some uncut silver certs. :D Nice notes man. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  4. 1892 Barber

    1892 Barber New Member

  5. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    :thumb: that 3digit $20 note is very cool!!!

    the rest or nice too :D but the 3 digit is a show stealer :D
     
  6. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    $20 bills

    nice notes, but i thought uncut sheet notes had serial numbers 96000000 and higher
     
  7. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Well that's because him and a few others on here just make them in there basements, all those New York notes had to have been to good to be true. :D :D :D Just joking, lol. Real neat notes you got there Rickie. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  8. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    I rarely display any of my notes. Recall that most inks are light sensitve and fade over time..a long time but still fade. I keep them in a deep dark cool dry SDB well out of sight.

    RickieB
     
  9. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    These notes are still available from the BEP....I ordered mine at 12:00 noon the day they were released...that was quite a while back...

    RickieB
     
  10. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    They do, except when they don't.... :rolleyes:

    The big exception are star sheets. Those generally represent leftovers from the circulation printings, so they've got normal serial numbers. Some of the recent shorter runs have clearly been printed purely for collector sales (2004A $10 GF..*, anyone?) but have retained the lower numbers anyway.

    Then there are a few weird products like the 1995 $5 H8888... sheets, too. But aside from those odd cases, the non-star uncut sheets all use serials over 96000000, and usually over 99000000.
     
  11. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Boy RickieB - If that $20 run was 656 we would have to have a long talk - you might just get every B that came into my wallet over a very long period of time :D...

    Nice sheets!!! - Thanks for bringing them into the light - even if just for a scan! :)

    Regards

    Darryl
     
  12. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    I'm a little curious about this new trend from the BEP.

    It used to be that if you came across an error note with a high serial number above the 96000000 mark you mentioned, it was highly suspect to have come from an uncut sheet.

    Now with the BEP releasing uncut sheets with lower serial numbers, that rule of thumb may just be useless now.
     
  13. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Numbers;

    Can I ask you were you are finding this information? I sure would like to know where to look for it.

    Thanks...

    RickieB
     
  14. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    RickeyB - from his admission in another thread, he is the care-taker of the http://www.uspapermoney.info site that we point alot of collectors to. From what i have read on his site, he gets regular reports from the BEP and such. Along with that, from what i have read on his site fromthe notes in his collection - he must have been at it a long time :D
     
  15. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    So would I. The BEP doesn't include the uncut sheets in its monthly production reports, so the only way to know exactly what's been printed is to keep up with what's turning up in the collector market. I've got a table of known serial blocks here, and an attempt at estimating serial ranges here, but I'm not entirely confident that either of them is 100% complete. In particular I know I haven't added the newest few sheets the BEP's printed; I've got to get over to Ebay and squint at serial numbers for a while to see what's out there.... :rolleyes:
     
  16. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    it seems to me that you could buy one of those uncut sheets without the high serial numbers and cut them in weird ways and sell them on ebay. like rickie's not like he would but he could cut those $20's a weird way and then they would be error, star, low serial number bills! :eek:
     
  17. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    It would be difficult to fool an experienced person if you only started with a 4 note sheet, but with a 16 note sheet, I'm willing to bet that I could produce some $500+ cutting errors that would fool even the moderately experienced. Historically, the extremely high serial number was usually the red flag for such forgeries.
     
  18. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    well gatzdon, this is why we all ALL glad your one of the nice guys :) The high serials is the only defense i know of to these errors. And even then i dont know the number ranges off the top of my head. i always look up the serial ranges to be sure. So if there are other ways ... fill me in :p
     
  19. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    The sheet is trimmed at least once before the final cut, but the margin is not fully removed until the final cut. So folded/cutting errors that affect notes on the edge would involve the margin of the sheet. Uncut sheets have this margin trimmed before the uncut sheet is sold. So, there is no way a scammer could "add" the margin back to the note. So if you ever see a so called folded/cutting error that is missing the margin, you should find that a highly questionable error.

    Also, it is highly improbable for a sheet to get folded between the printing of the overprint and the cutting of the notes. So if a fold should have affected the overprint, but the overprint is fine, this should be another red flag.

    Folds that are dramatic enough to affect the margin or overprint are not only highly desireable, they make it much easier to determine the genuineness of the error.
     
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