What would you grade this Seated Half?

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  1. SilverDollar2017

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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I know I'd proudly add it to my 7070.
     
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  4. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    AU something...in hand, possibly as high as 55.
     
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  5. carpman98

    carpman98 Active Member

    I would go with AU-50, previously cleaned and now re-toned. Any time I see that particular shade of dark battleship grey or even darker, my first thought is cleaned. The completely uniform toning overall is also quite often a tip-off that there was a prior cleaning. And when you see the small areas adjacent to the raised design exhibiting a different shade, that is generally where the implements used in the cleaning (e.g. cloth) were unable to rub the surface. I am not suggesting that you do this, but if that coin were dipped, chances are extremely high that you would see hairline scratches galore. Left alone, and in the right lighting and at the right angles, you could see those hairlines as well.
     
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  6. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    53 my guess.
     
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  7. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    AU50. Nice coin.
     
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  8. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

  9. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I appreciate ALL the opinions. This will stay raw in my 7070. I'm super glad I bought it!
     
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  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You might want to upgrade the Barber some day if you get bored.
     
  12. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Absolutely. It's the best one that I had in my junk silver jar.
     
  13. Coinsailor

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    I give it a au53 too much wear for 55 or. 58 but it is a treasure and who cares if it was lightly dipped or cleaned at one time I think the dealers and breeding services promote this idea of lightly cleaning is bogus and self serving You got a bargain and a treasure cherish it this idea it is worth less is just so dealers can run the coin down so they can by it cheap! Sir you got a deal enjoy
     
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  14. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I appreciate it!! I'm familiar with the dealers that commented in this thread and I value their opinions very much. It looks market acceptable to me, and I think it would straight grade if submitted. Alas, we shall never find out, unless someone plucks it from my album (after I die) and sends it in!
     
  15. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I think I'm going to replace the 1834 with this: IMG_1172.JPG IMG_1173.JPG It's an R-3 I got awhile back at a show.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    But, but, but, but then it will never be in the “survival rate” that the “knowledgeable dealers” all know about. :eek::D:troll::rolleyes:o_O

    Yes, I know I’m a pain in the backside to dealers. It’s strictly intentional.
     
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  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Based off the pictures I to would put it in AU53-AU55 range. I like it and think it is a good addition to the album.
     
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  18. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    AU something...nice '77...My grandma's birth year!
     
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  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    carpman98 posted his opinion that the coin may have been cleaned, citing the "completely uniform toning overall" and the "small areas adjacent to the raised design exhibiting a different shade." I disagree with carpman's conclusion, as the toning, overall, does not look especially uniform to me, and the lighter shade around the devices suggests originality to me. When coins are cleaned, the fields are typically lighter and brighter, and the dark gunk around the devices remains.
    for example: [​IMG]Whereas, an unmolested coin, in my opinion, will have darker fields and lighter color around the devices as in the coin in the o.p. and this example (which is not hairlined):
    [​IMG]Since Nathan has the coin "in hand" (in album?) he can easily check for hairlines with a strong light.
     
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  20. buckeye73

    buckeye73 Well-Known Member

    XF-45 to AU-50 range possible old cleaning.
     
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