Could these be double die coins ?

Hey guys . I found two coin specimens recently and I was wondering if the images in these photos are signs of doubled die coins and if so what kind of doubling is it exactly ?

 

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Can we see full coin pictures so we know what date we are looking at?

 

In particular . I'm noticing a very strong looking notch at the very bottom of the letter N in the word Unum And doubling In the letters M and U ... Also Im noticing doubling around the ear nose and the cheek on the first coin ...

 

I understand that but I would like to see the entire obverse and reverse of the coin.

 

Sure I don't mind sharing full pictures of the coins but first I would just like to know if anyone could please tell me if these are signs of double die coins and what kind of doubling it is in order to prevent any unnecessary guessing on my part ... LOL

 

The 5th slide is consistent with MD, as what appears in slide #6 originally appears as it might be DD. But once you look at it in comparison with #5, you realize it is same, but with a different angle on the light source, it is MD, IMO. It is hard because the magnification level is not very high in pixels. It appears the first set of photos are single squeeze era and I will wait on that one. Jim

 

I enjoy the coin colonoscopy photos.

 

While highly magnified, your pictures are fuzzy and make it hard to make out the fine details. I do see some possible signs of the notches and and doubling of the features, but clearer pics of the whole coin front & back help to verify certain markers. It is a necessary evil for anyone to answer your questions.

 

This question is really not meant to be sarcastic, so please dont take it that way. What is the appeal of looking for these microscopic errors?

 

It's to determine whether or not there is any doubling on the coin and if so then what kind of doubling it is frankjg and don't worry I haven't lost track or taken offense ... So does anyone here know the different variations of doubling I.e. squeeze doubling push doubling etc etc ? I would like to focus strictly on the images shared first to learn something in order to try and learn the different forms of doubling thanks ?

 

Yes, but it could also be machine doubling, aka ejection doubling. Minor doubling happens like that. Look at the 1934-D Peace Dollar, VAM 3 or 4

 

Yes I see ... And that's a great example of some ROUNDED machine doubling . But here's another great example of the same doubling found on a coin with Flat machine doubling lines and Round doubling lines just like the one I have . And although my picture is a little sideways im learning more towards the ROUNED DOUBLING what do you think . ?

 

The lines on the cheek look like an identical match ... But is there anything else that you can tell me about the other devices in the photos because I have yet to get a solid response ? On what kind of doubling it actually shows on the Clear pictures?

 

So I guess there's no sense in trying to learn specific things like what type doubling is on the devices here ?

 

Thanks for the helpful insight you guys ...

 

A flat photographic image of only a portion of a coin will usually be inconclusive unless it is an extreme separation doubling . Most of the minute doubling that is shown is machine induced, but it is very hard to tell as to the type. If you have seen the photo " Face on mars" geological formation, astronomers can see the whole area surrounding it. If you took just that small clip of the face alone, and asked what it represented, people would assume it was on earth and man made. The difference between multiple hubbing and single squeeze is like that. And answers should reflect that fact ( my personal feeling).
One poster asked to see the whole coin, but you were not inclined to show it, so that raises concern as to the purposes. you want to learn specific differences without first learning the normal. yes that would be faster, but Ebay and You Tube are filled with people who try that and are largely wrong .
Hope you stick around. Jim

 

Can we see the entire coin?

It should be EASILY visual just looking at the coin as a whole and not microscopic, pixelated, fractional images. Once you get to that level you start seeing things that are not there due to even simple things like light reflection, light refraction and even shadows.
Thanks

 

Everyone could help you, but only if you could help us first. From your pictures, it is too hard to see what type of doubling, if any, is on the coin due to blurriness, awful shadowing, and extreme magnification. Before making snarky remarks towards some of the most experienced members on this website, you should realize that YOU might not be providing the quality of content necessary to receive assistance.

 

This is the point when things often start going downhill, so one can only hope that history repeating itself can be avoided....

As much as I can understand and respect your desire to approach this in your own way, please understand this is a two-way street in that it's usually best to answer questions asked of you in return instead of avoiding them. Not doing so often only helps to frustrate and/or turn knowledgeable folks away who are genuinely trying to help. Additionally, little unnecessary comments like the above probably do more harm than anything else, so I would respectfully suggest you avoid such things in the future and simply because the membership is willing/trying to help you learn specific things even if you don't want to see it.

 

If I may add, if you want to learn about these specific things, then you'll have to buy a book(s). The book(s) will have Clear, Crisp and Professional Images and great descriptions.

Then you can learn about it by comparing what you have to those books.
Hate to say this but Your images are not clear, crisp nor professional. So we cannot really see anything at all to evaluate your questions.

CherryPickers Guide, Major Variety and Oddity, etc are all available on amazon. I'm sure other members can recommend better books and websites.