Naturally toned?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Britt428, Jul 7, 2018.

  1. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    Bought this ase the other day, seller swears it was from his own collection and only had a few toned, most were still 100% silver. Seemed very trustworthy but the red and green in it aren't the most natural looking, although I've seen crazier toning. I have one with the "t toning" already slabbed so that doesnt bother me. Thoughts?
     

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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Looks artificial to me. He enhanced it somehow... even if just placing it on a heated surface.
     
  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    That straight line toning going through the flat fields and straight through a design makes on think that it was toned very quickly. As CBD stated .. placed on a heated surface.

    And the thin "T" shaped area definitely looks like a wire rack in a toaster oven.


    Ooh .. I recently accidentally toned some coins trying to dry them in my toaster oven at too high a heat .. so don't ask me how I know - not ASEs though, luckily.
     
  5. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Only way to get the obverse to look like that "naturally" in such short time would be in a paper roll in less than ideal conditions. However, if that were the case, the reverse would be pristine, so I'd conclude this coin is pure AT fantasy.

    edited to add: good catch on the t-shape...definitely looks like an oven rack!
     
  6. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    That's what I was thinking but didnt pay any more for it than I would have without the toning and it's unique but itll save me money from sending it in. Thanks
     
  7. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    I do have an ase that pcgs slabbed that looks very similar without the red and green. Has a t in it and was toned on both sides but that hard red and green line was just throwing me off, couldnt see how it would be possible.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Looks 'cooked' to me........
     
  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I’m not much help on toners, but it looks like an area of color has a boundary drawn with a ruler. Don’t see how that could occur without some “help.”
     
  10. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    At least I got this beautiful proof that I dont have any doubts on, at least I hope so, picture didnt pick up the colors well but it's a beauty.
     

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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Maybe natural, although the light spots make me wonder if someone didn't spritz it with patina before heating her up. Idk.
     
  12. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    That would be my luck....
     
  13. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    I have a 1986 ASE that sat in a paper envelope since it was minted and it's still bright white.

    My opinion is that any significant toning on modern coins is intentionally-created.
     
  14. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    Rpmsrpms well I know that to be completely false. I have several eagles I bought brand new some in the mint issued velvet boxes and PCI holders that I have watched tone over the years. Some more than others and very different colors. I guess that paper envelope didnt have any sulfur or any other chemicals that contribute to toning but to say the government or pci did it intentionally just doesnt make any sense...
     
  15. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    So, where do you live Britt? You must be in a very humid environment, and do you leave your coins out where there is lots of airflow? Those are the mitigating factors that might accelerate toning. I put my coins away, and I live in CA, where it rarely gets to 60% RH indoors. Notice my not saying "artificial" but "intentional".
     
  16. Britt428

    Britt428 New Member

    I live in florida and yes it is very humid unfortunately. But the coins were originally bought and stored for their first 17 years in San Diego, Rancho Bernardo specifically. They started toning there and I have always kept them in a safe(never in an attic or anywhere humid). I also have plenty of coins that never toned and still look the way they did the day I bought them, not sure why some did and some didnt but nothing was ever intentionally done...
     
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