(Large Pics) 1/6th Thaler Wildman

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ASUtodd, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    I took some pics of the new Wildman I got on Christmas Eve. When looking at the obverse starting at the 5 o'clock on over to around the 8 o'clock position (when I say 5 to 8 I mean in relation to the pic not the coin) you can see the rotated/Double die and also on the reverse start at around the 9 o'clock to the 1 o'clock position of the picture. I'll work on my pic taking skills but for now this is what I have to work with! Now on to the bigger question, the person I bought this from thought it was a 1784 1/6th Thaler from Hannover Germany (states). However, when looking at pictures othe 1/6th thaler from that time it just doesn't quite match up, here is the link http://www.welfen-muenzen.de/georg_iii.html
    It looks like a cross between the 1/24th thaler and the 1/6th on that page. ANy accurate identification would be aprpeciated. Thanks!

    P.S. Disregard the dog hairs in the pic, stupid beagles!
    Todd
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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Dude, that's a cool (BIG PICS) coin here is another one like it x2... The pics are pretty bad and I should take better ones.

    Ben
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  4. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    Wow

    Well I'm going to say your's is a cool coin!! I bet that one set you back a pretty penny! Beautiful coin my friend!
    Todd
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Thanks man :) Nah, not too much, a few years ago they were cheaper. Think the one I have was $64.00...

    Ben
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Todd,

    What are all those small bumps on the surface of the coin? Are you sure this is a genuine coin?
     
  7. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    If this were a cast coin then there wouldn't be a double die on it(to the extent that it is). You can look at the lettering and see that he coin rotated and then was struck. If it were cast it wouldn't have that sharp of detail in the lettering plus being stamped would have done away with any raised portions on the planchet. If it were to be a fake then someone took a lot of time to make a replica of a really inexpensive coin... I don't think it is a fake, I have had two different dealers look at it plus I posted the pics on the PCGS forums and so far everyone thinks it is a legit coin that is COOL!! :)
    Thanks though!
    Todd
     
  8. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    The coin is Double Struck and is not a Double Die! I am unsure as to the denomination but don't think that is a 1/6th Thaler. It could possibly be a 6 Kreuzer coin!


    Frank
     
  9. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    Correction

    I meant double struck but in my haste I put double die... thanks for the correction.... As for the denomination, on the reverse (which is shadowed on the bottom) it has the fraction 1/6 on the very bottom center as the 1/6th thaler does ....
    Todd
     
  10. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Todd,

    You are right! I spoke before noting the 1/6 on the coin. I found a link to a similar coin and am pretty sure that your coin is from the BRAUNSCHWEIG, BRAUNSCHWEIG-CALENBERG-HANNOVER of Germany, as the coins are almost identical!

    http://www.vcoins.com/world/ritter/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=6133


    Frank
     
  11. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    Thanks

    I found that same coin here http://www.welfen-muenzen.de/georg_iii.html
    but the 1/6th on that page is different from mine. The person I bought this from stated it was a German-Hanover 1/6th Thaler. I was hoping someone could nail this for sure for me so I can get some background on the coin itself. Thanks for the help!
    Todd
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Todd,

    I found the exact coin at the link below! The coin is on page 2 and is KM# 348. You have to register and sign-in to view larger pics and information on the coin.


    Frank
     
  13. ASUtodd

    ASUtodd Member

    I logged in and looked around but the 1/6th thalers on the auction pages have a different set of initials under the wildman and different writing on the reverse where "Fein Silb" is on mine.
    Todd
     
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