I'm not sure this coin is authentic and don't want to rely on the Kagin label alone. The weight is 16.9 grams. Any help, comments are appreciated.
Is the edge filed? This series have been faked alot so I would let someone familiar with this to examine it in hand. Maybe good idea to submit for NGC.
Yes, looks authentic, the obverse (Pallas Athena) is a very nice sharply struck portrait. much better then the average. pic of the edge doesn't help,please try again. compare to my new style tetradrachma:
Or not. I think Civitas has some credibility. However, there may be some PVC plasticizer degradation. You may want to consider an acetone rinse, then storing it in something other than the Kagin's flip (but I would keep the tag)
I agree with @Oldhoopster . The flip appears to be a pvc flip which over time can damage the coin due to leaching from the flip.
@Bing The coin you posted looks fake to me it seems it suffers from many casting bubble. (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/legit-ancient.318954/)
Thank you everyone for the opinions. A friend of mine is thinking of buying it from someone that has had it since the mid 1980's. My friend will happen to be in downtown Chicago and the owner is allowing him to bring it to Harlan Berks. I'll post the results when i get them. Thanks again for the opinions and suggestions.
If he wants to get opinions about how much he should pay for the coin, perhaps HJB isn't the best way to do that, although it might be fun for him to see a large array of good coins! CNG's archives are a good resource (and free). ACsearch is now a paid subscription but it includes a wide array of auction houses. "New Style" Athens tetradrachms are abundant and in general the specific variety (magistrates names... all those little letters on the reverse) don't make as much difference compared to condition, with a some exceptions of course. Sometimes an interesting control mark can make a coin more desirable, or if one of the magistrates is known to history other than from his name on the coin, that too can help. The old price on the coin's flip is overly optimistic in terms of a price for that coin today, perhaps by double. Here's the search result page for CNG when using the terms "athens new style tetradrachm". Your friend might be interested. The results are shown under three tabs: The Coin Shop, eAuctions, and Printed Auctions. You'll have to click each of those tabs to see all of the results and some of the hits will be other types of coins. Most recent sales are shown first. Looks for coins in similar condition sold within the last few years to get an idea of value. Buyer's premium is not shown in these hammer prices. If you want to narrow it down to the exact variety of New Style tet (not really necessary for this type of coin), the one you showed has a reverse control mark of Demeter (or Artemis) carrying two torches. There are gobs of varieties of these tets so you won't find hundreds of this (or any one) precise variety in sales archives. Here are all of the hits I found for the exact variety: https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=221058 2012, $450 https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=151782 2009, $625 https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=56575 2004, $280 https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=27382 2003, $380 From ACsearch: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4691676 2018, $440 (slabbed; NGC EF, Strike: 5/5 Surface: 4/5) https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3167680 2016, $1035 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2007141 2014, $201 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1928679 2014, $142 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3957860 2014, $390 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1595039 2013, $456 ...and four more but I got tired of copying and pasting Hope this helps
Thanks TIF, very helpful. I did some searching on Heritage's site and found similar coins for $300-$600, and figured out soon that, like you mentioned, I probably won't find an exact match (and I didn't!) We'll see what happens. Thanks again TIF.
