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Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by BigsWick, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. BigsWick

    BigsWick Rat Powered

    Guys,

    I need some help with some bills.

    I flew home yesterday for the holidays and have no access to my books or even a scanner.

    I was just handed 4 dollar notes that belonged to my great grandfather. Two are as follows:

    1866 One Dollar notes, one is a C, one is a D, serial numbers K8325495* and K 5526000* respectively. Both notes are a little bit frayed on the corners (just a tad) or have tiny creases. no other rips, tears, or creases that I can see. They look really nice.

    The second two are 1923 Silver Certificates, crips corners, very clean, but both have been folded, serial numbers A63769127E and Z83209620.

    Any ideas on their worth? I'll try to scan in some images in the next couple of days.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Hey Bigswick... Check those $1 notes the first issue/series was 1862 and the second was 1869...no 1866..

    Pics would be better of course..

    RickieB
     
  4. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    RickeyB is correct! I have never heard of an 1866 issue. And as always, when question arise, scans will be helpfull!
     
  5. BigsWick

    BigsWick Rat Powered

    OK, finally got access to a scanner:
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    So, what do you guys think? Any idea what they are worth?
     
  6. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    I dont know anything about Paper Money. But I do have a The Red Book of United States Paper Money. According to this book, the Silver Certs as as follows. Signature of Woods and White: $50 in VF20, $55 in EF40 and $125 in Unc63. Signatures of Speelman and White , the prices are tha same. Now the red book says that the 1869 bills are $200 in VG8, $425 in F12, $700 in VF20, $950 in EF40, and $1,950 in Unc63. Anyhow, like I said I dont know anything about paper money, but I hope that helps. And your on your own when it comes to grading.
     
  7. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Bigswick..

    What I think is that you were awarded some very nice notes!

    The top two notes are Series 1869 $1 notes #18.
    As far as condition goes I would give them Betweem VF30 and borderline XF. You can see the obvious wear on the notes, the edge tears/cuts and corner damage and folds. None the less both are fantastic notes and worth some nice $$$$. I would suggest having these two notes graded by PMG or PCGS.
    Very nice notes!

    The lower 2 notes are Series 1923 $1 note. The one note Woods/White has a small stain on the lower left and has more wear than the other. I would say XF on that note and a high XF to AU58 on the cleaner Speelman/White note! The rarer signature is Woods / Tate which you do not have, however, what you have is Great!
    I am by no means a professional grader, and what i have mentioned is from what I see from the Scans. Scans do cover up some fold lines and that is why I say get them graded.

    You did very well and should thank your folks!!

    Regards,

    RickieB
     
  8. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    DJP did you look under star notes for the 1869 note becuase that might drastically change the price
     
  9. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    The $1 notes from Series 1869 all had stars. Part of the design.
    These are the second Series of Legal Tender Notes of the United States.

    RickieB
     
  10. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    some nice notes there!!
     
  11. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    :thumb: very cool notes!!!!
     
  12. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    If I'm not mistaken, I believe they actually physically duplicated the serial number on replacement notes back then. Back then, the printing process was much slower and dramatic errors were much more likely to be caught by the BEP. I also believe that very minor errors were much more likely to be intentionly released into circulation due to the time/cost of replacing a defective note.
     
  13. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Rickie,

    Although I am at work and cannot copy and paste the pics of the notes to my PC for enlarging, it looks as if there may not be any actual tears on the corners of the 1869 Notes! It appears that there are just little folds on most of the corners but I could be wrong.

    Extremely nice notes though!


    Frank
     
  14. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Howdy Frank... you are correct in the corners having small folds. Look closly at the upper margins and you will see what I think are small margin breaks indicated by a dark line and possible repair.
    Do not confuse these with some of the paper fibers moving into the margin area as well.
    The first note looks to have one right of cente just above the "f" in for. Also look at the lower left bottom corner area..I think I see 2 more small margin breaks...small they may be to smal to judge on this screen..LOL
    The edge wear is difficult to judge without holding it.
    Also I could be wrong..would not be the first time thats for sure!

    Hope all is well..

    Regards
    RickieB
     
  15. BigsWick

    BigsWick Rat Powered

    Update:

    FYI: I was given the choice to take one of each of the two notes. I chose the first and fourth notes pictured in my original scan. My cousin gets the other two.
     
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