Constantine Die Match

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Victor_Clark, May 29, 2008.

  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I am doing a leisurely die study of Constantine's VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP from Siscia and just got a new example in today. It is RIC VII Siscia 56 and is an obverse die match for another example I have. I also have obverse die matches for RIC 82. The first pic is RIC 56, and the animation is RIC 82.

    If you are not familiar with VLPP's, I have some pages about them.

    http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/sis/
     

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  3. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Great post, Victor!

    James
     
  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Thanks James, I enjoy VLPP's...probably too much!
     
  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Hello Victor_Clark
    Always interesting to find die matches, and not easy to spot : congratulations

    Cucumbor
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    10 years later and I am still looking for die matches, but mainly unofficial Siscian VLPP's. I just won an auction for a lot that is a fifth die match to other examples that I have.

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    17mm 2.2gm

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    16mm 2.6gm

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    16x17mm 2.1gm

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    16x17mm2.1gm

    the latest one, bottom row to right-

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    I also have the metallurgical analysis for the first two-

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    "The average weight of the imitatives is about .2 grams smaller than the official coinage. The coins...metal content and the percentage of silver (usually around 2%) indicates that many were most likely made from the previously de-monetized issues" http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/barb2/


    and an old .gif I made for the first two

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    these "barb" die matches are fun for me, but they are not so useful numismatically.
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat coins and congrats on the latest addition.
     
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  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Have you got one of these? This might be easy to track down a die match because, even though the inscriptions are gibberish, it has a clear SIS mint mark. Notice, too, the spear over the shoulder:
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    17 mm, 2.1 g.
     
  9. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, I have a die match to that one 18x17mm 2.5gm

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    and obverse match with close reverse 18x17mm 2.5gm

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    another close one, maybe reworked legend 16mm 2.3 gm

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    another similar 17x18mm 2.1gm

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    another similar example 17mm2.2gm

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    these coins are similar to an example found in a small hoard of 52 imitations found near Carnuntum, which included 37 VLPP imitations.

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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Fascinating. Victor, have you ever talked with Ron Bude? He's been doing some pretty sophisticated metallurgical analyses of VLPPs for a while now. He's got some interesting theories on the silver content of some of these coins and how it matters in the Licinian wars. He operates Roman Lode, though he says he's getting out of the retail business.
     
  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, I have talked to Ron.
     
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