MS66 PCGS 1971 D Kennedy 50c Struck on a 25c Blank

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JCro57, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    These wrong planchet freaks are among my favorite errors. I was waiting for a double error and a high MS grade, and boy, patience paid off. A wrong planchet AND struck on a blank (no rim) with a fully readable date. A real beauty, and probably one of my last posts until October (though I have a nice silver wheatie coming). Enjoy it!

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Why so long?
     
  4. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Not working now til september. I also notice green pvc everywhere on this. Gonna have to return it and might just delete this post
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    But you will still be on CoinTalk right? Checking out other threads. You're not the only person showing their Mint Errors here! :hilarious:
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Now that you mention it, I see it. If it weren't slabbed, I'd say just acetone it, but it is.
     
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  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    The dealer graciously acknowledged and refunded. He is going to have it removed by PCGS through their restoration service, and promised me first crack at it. Does PVC come back once removed?
     
  8. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Oh, I will be here. But I also need time to work on my book.
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not usually. The risk is that a chemical reaction has damaged the actual coin surface beneath, which usually takes a while. I once bought a 1924 Standing Lib quarter that had more green slime on it than any coin I had ever seen. The auctioneer had it listed "VF net". An acetone bath took it all off and it straight graded an MS64
     
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  10. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Actually, the seller will NOT acknowledge PVC but is still refunding me. Now sure how you can make a case that it isn't PVC.

    He posted for $1,200. Got him to $800. Now he says he is putting it on eBay for $2,200. But buying it with PVC is too much of a risk for $800. I won't buy something, especially slabbed, if it has it. I don't know enough about pvc removal, and once I remove it from the slab I am stuck with it if the problem cannot be solved. Better to be safe than sorry for $800. Too bad. Not likely gonna fimd another like it on a blank at that grade with a full date for under $1,000. Oh well :(
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Good man. Have standards and stick to them.
     
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  12. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    If I were you, I would have sent it back to NGC to have it conserved by NCS. I would think they should have done that before putting it into one of their regular slabs.
     
  13. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    As it is, you had a great coin that you let go b/c of a little PVC. Look at Bellman's post above.
     
  14. Maggie Kroon

    Maggie Kroon New Member

    I would have kept it
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    What everyone needs to appreciate is that what @JCro57 is putting together is not some run-of-the-mill error collection. He's putting together what is called an "important" collection, the kind of thing that gets its own Heritage or S/B glossy catalog someday. We all are getting in on the beginning of a superior collection. He needs to walk away from pieces that don't meet his standards. It's what owners of important collections do.
     
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  16. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    PVC removal is not difficult, and there's no problem with the resulting coin if the PVC hasn't actually damaged the coin's surface. As I said above, I would have sent it to NGC to get NCS conservation and then grading and slabbing. If you get it into an NGC slab with no problems mentioned, then it would fit into an "important" collection.
     
  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes, in hindsight, either crack it yourself and try acetone or send it in for conservation. Now, you won't be getting it back.
     
  18. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    You and I both know that this is not near the level of PVC residue that one should really be concerned about treating. Even already slabbed, it's just a minor inconvenience with the only risk being the regrade.

    Standards apply for selecting the right coins, and this is the right coin. You don't walk away from a unique piece because of a trivial amount of PVC residue.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    If it were mine, I would crack it, acetone it, and resubmit it to NGC. But @JCro57 might be a PCGS fan. I don’t know PCGS’ policy on pieces like this one.
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I think it's a great piece and there is going to be exchange refund remorse.
     
  21. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    No remorse here. I have several other pieces much more unique. And I would much rather have a Franklin on Quarter planchet, but i gotta save up a little bit longer. There are lots of Kennedys on quarter planchets
     
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