If it were not for those edge knocks.......

One of the examples provenanced to the St. Oswald Collection, image shows the “die lines” prominently across the bridge of the nose unique to this variety (image courtesy Heritage):

 

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Sheldon just says die damage.

 

Conder101, posted: "Breen refers to them as die cuts. I think they are too heavy to be called die scratches, I'd call them die gouges, but die cuts would be a good description."

Well, who can argue with Breen?


"I don't see any die breaks on the coin, and as far as I can tell even in the terminal stage S-71 has no die breaks. Now if you mean die CRACKS (which I assume you do from the "squiggly" comment) then yes it does have those, but no piece of the die has broken off yet."

You can call them anything you wish. Everyone else uses their own terms too. I'll stick to this one from the "old days" before most of you guys were around.

Macmillan Encyclopedic Dictionary of Numismatics: Die Break - A raised, wandering [squiggly] line that extends across the obverse or reverse of a coin. A die break is the result of a cracked die,...

Similar definitions for DIE BREAKS are in every reference I looked up. See, you and I agree!

 

cool coin nice pickup

 

Cleaned piece of crap. I know a guy that buys ugly coins. So I'll offer $100 just to get you out of it. (JK, mods).

 

Jack, that is a beautiful example!

I remember reading about the Lord St. Oswald collection - bought directly from the Philadelphia mint in 1795(?) by the then visiting english Lord St. Oswald, and passed on to his heirs until the 1960s - a number (20 or so?) early American gold silver and copper coins in mint condition all kept together in a wooden box until brought by the family to a London coin dealer in the 60's...

This more humble example of an S-71 saw much circulation before it ended up in Europe as well - at least it has no edge knocks!

 

Eduard, posted: "Jack, that is a beautiful example!...This more humble example of an S-71 saw much circulation before it ended up in Europe as well - at least it has no edge knocks!"


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Looks like your example does not have the "three short lines, probably from a die injury..." [Quote from Noyes reference] possibly DIE CUTS either. I do see the die break in "Liberty."

Therefore, I'm going to change my opinion and call these tool marks near the eye until an example with an extension into the field that is more noticeable than what I saw on the OP's example.

 

Had to do a double take on that one, I use to own this I later sold to Tom Deck, his photo:



http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s71.jpg

I don't have good references on these anymore, how many times did the obverse die clash, just once? All examples posted in this thread have the clash marks between the bust a the pole, but the clashing in the fields on the Oswald coin aren't present. Is this a function of wear or die state?

 

My example is barely attributable!

 

Love the coin Eduard I could live with the rim damage as the surfaces are beautiful

 

A medium?

 

Still better than what I have.