Completed Washington Quarter Collection/Album

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  1. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Wow those are some spectacular coins.
     
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  3. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    CladKing,

    I especially want to thank you for your contributions to this site and for the extra push your posts gave me. There are still many P's in there I could never find!

    I am very humbled and appreciative of everyone's comments. It means more than you could probably imagine.
     
  4. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector


    You're welcome and thank you.

    Washington quarters are a much more challenging set and much more overlooked than most people realize. I've collected them a few times over the years because it's a still evolving set. No matter how they are collected there's always something new to learn.
     
  5. Paul_62

    Paul_62 Just takin' it one day at a time

    WashQuart_Jesse, Well Done! I salute you.. like others have said this gives me energy to finish mine. I seem to be stuck around 190 coins, I'm still looking for some of those mid-1930s quarters. But now I know it can be done, I'll keep moving along...
     
  6. John Johnson

    John Johnson Well-Known Member

    Nice. I'm working on a Peace Dollar set. It's only 24 coins, yet it's taken me over two years to get where I am (still need 3). Good job completing that one!
     
  7. iontyre

    iontyre Active Member

    Just 8 Washingtons to go for me (32DS, 34D, 35DS, 36D, 37S, 39S). Spend a good long time trying to find a 40D that I liked, finally happened upon a great MS66 example at the Whitman show last March for under $300.
     
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  8. Roalef31

    Roalef31 Member

    Wow!! What an accomplishment! Congrats! You have even inspired me to take a look at the underrated beauty of a Washington Quarter, especially the silver ones.

    What's next? Will you still be looking for potential upgrades as the years go by? I'd imagine it would be difficult to not look at Washington Quarters now after you've been trained to spot gems for the past decade or so!
     
  9. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing your amazing collection. I hope it brings you more enjoyment and pride.
     
  10. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    Paul/John, Good luck on your sets and thank you for your kind words. It’s a good hunt! Paul, PM me if you are ever on the fence about a particular coin. Buyer’s market for those dates/MM’s right now! John, I absolutely love Peace Dollars… worn or shiny, just not altered. ANACS appears to be strict/serious with this series.

    Iontyre, I attended a show in Clearwater, FL back in 2013 and was fortunate to hammer out a few of the more difficult dates/mm’s. It was here that I located my final 1940-D example from a very kind dealer. Paid $210 at the time. There was a small deposit placed, a check mailed, and a phenomenal coin later received. It is very lustrous, clean, and has a crisp strike. Absolutely love this coin:

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    Roale, I’ve always felt there was a beauty to it and it’s very pleasing to hear you say that. It’s difficult not to re-evaluate each and every coin, of course. I already want to substitute one coin, which I know, has many better examples available. Thankfully, this one will never be difficult to come by. Part of me wants to say that this “book is now shut” but as you point out, is it ever?

    Robert, following your WQ collecting posts has really been enjoyable. You are obviously committed to your pursuit and I admire your method. If you would ever consider adding a few roll coins, I’d send you the best dupes I have (PM me if so). When I started w/ this series, I used to go to car washes and feed bills into the change machines. I got a few silvers out of it, but the nearest I ever got to an uncirculated clad was a 90’s AU but boy did that feel good!
     
  11. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    Thats a beautiful coin. Cladking has an amazing huge collection too. Thank you for sharing the pictures. Woweee
     
  12. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    That's a GREAT looking group of Washingtons!!! Congratulations on putting together the set!!!
     
  13. Kim Greenwood

    Kim Greenwood New Member

    Great looking set! Congrats!!!!
     
  14. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    Thank you Kim and Sky. Sky, it's always been a pleasure to view your magnificent examples. Seriously, what fabulous coins they are.

    It's been only a few months since "completion," but oddly enough, it feels more like years!? I turned to the dark side (Ag bullion) during this period but am enthusiastically (and quickly) returning to numismatics! I am now in the process of assembling an introductory level U.S. gold series. The truth of it, is that I will never be able to devote myself to another series or set as I did with the Washington's (possession or no possession), until I retire. Hopefully, I can make it that long. Boy, will I take advantage of that.

    People have suggested that there's never a "completion" point in terms of our "sets." So far, this has proven to be the case with me. On the rare instances I've viewed the old quarters album, there's always been a burning desire to keep upgrading/replacing and probably always will be. I need to keep this thread alive, as promised, but am pulled in every direction right now, it feels like.

    I've been spending much of my free time alone in the mountains pursuing big game (and maybe wisdom). I still plan to keep this thread alive and find myself "attempting" to intelligently comment on threads that have captured my interest. However, I'm in the absorption stage of my life you could say... Like many of you will or have come to realize, it's sometimes best to give our thoughts and opinions time to mature, despite us wanting to share.

    There was a thread focusing on eagle's that took me into another dimension. Many of you can probably relate. I asked myself, what does the eagle represent to me? What do I want it to represent? How is my ideal representation different from others and why? It got to the point where I found myself researching various bodily angles, symbols, historic trends etc... Good stuff. Have also been tempted into the various CAC, "done w/ U.S.," and "dippers" threads... sure I'm forgetting a bunch. You can always count on me for a Scotch response though (if I can remember my password).

    There have been instances when I've said to myself, "this forum is nothing like it used to be," and as I've hopefully pointed out above, maybe it's better than ever? I think so. There's a refreshing wave of interest and you vets are steering them in the right direction, just like you did with me.

    In any event, just checking in and will attempt to add to this living thread, shortly!
     
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  15. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    What may prove to be the most fulfilling aspect of having a completed series is the ability to review examples as you wish. This evening, I’m considering the 1965-1967 non-SMS coins of this series. As many of you are already aware, the Mint did not produce proof sets during these years but did offer collectors the ability to purchase special mint sets (SMS). While constructing my album, these SMS sets were still readily available and I had the opportunity to select the most quality examples. I can’t recall how many of these SMS sets I disassembled, but there were quite a few!

    As a collector (and very minor seller at the time), what immediately stood out to me was the relative abundance of SMS sets and coins within the marketplace, but seemingly lack of non-SMS examples. This may be a stretch, but I even felt dealers were actually more inclined to list/sell attractive non-SMS coins as SMS, given the SMS’ comparative exclusivity and lower mintages to the non-SMS coins of these same dates. For instance, anyone completing a Washington proof series would require the SMS example. Any dealer presented with a pleasant 1966, 67, or 68 Washington Quarter outside of SMS packaging, would most likely (and understandably), assume and offer it as an SMS coin. Again, this is my suspicion, but one that I feel may be the case. To most, this matters very little. At the time, a non-SMS coin might have fetched a dollar less or something…

    Business strike quarters mintage:

    1965: 1,819,717,540

    1966: 821,101,500

    1967: 1,524,031,848

    SMS quarters mintage:

    1965: 2,360,000

    1966: 2,261,583

    1967: 1,863,344


    The mintage figures obviously suggest that business strike examples were, and may still be, far more available to collectors. However, we have to consider the historical context of these issues and so many other things to really determine true availability. It’s the availability (or lack thereof) of high quality non-SMS uncirculated examples which command my interest. Despite their overwhelming mintage, I believe quality uncirculated non-SMS coins of these dates are worth some consideration. Current TPG value approximations may not exactly encourage submissions, but let’s take a look at PCGS’ population statistics as of this post:

    1965
    6470 64+1 65168 65+0 66264 66+3 6731 67+7

    1966 6437 64+0 6591 65+0 66263 66+2 6759 67+6

    1967 6430 64+0 65106 65+0 66413 66+14 6773 67+7

    PCGS’ price guide currently lists MS67 examples as follows:

    1965 $365

    1966 $315

    1967 $160

    There’s a significant marketplace disparity between PCGS and NGC MS67 examples according to PCGS. Certified NGC MS67 examples have sold for as low as $4 on ebay as recently as this September. Despite this, the only certifiedexample from these dates and this grade, currently for sale on this platform is a 1966 NGC listed with a buy it now of $280. For this particular date, Jamie Hernandez states that:

    “The 1966 Washington Quarter is very common, especially since over 800 million of them were struck. Examples in circulated grades can still be found in circulation. Even examples in about MS60-MS63 condition can also be found in circulation. In MS64-MS66 condition they are little tougher to find, yet, can be purchased inexpensively. In MS67 condition it is scarce with less than a hundred examples graded by PCGS. In MS67+ condition is extremely scarce with less than handful of examples known and none being finer.”

    I agree with most of Mr. Hernandez’ observations, save for his belief that “examples in about MS60-MS63 condition can also be found in circulation.” My experiences suggest that I am far more likely to find a silver piece in circulation than any pre ’99 Washington Quarter in uncirculated condition! I also question whether or not because “over 800 million of them were struck,” it necessarily guarantees that this makes them “very common” today? I question how many of these have actually been put aside. CT’s own Robert is one of the only/few I can think of. The abovementioned (higher uncirculated grade) PCGS population statistics suggest that the non-SMS 1965-1967 is extremely uncommon in relation to its original mintage.

    It was very important for me, as a collector, to be able to distinguish/identify non-SMS coins to SMS coins. Much has been discussed on this forum on the inability or ability to do so. I vaguely recall, strongly suggesting that it was possible, yet far more accomplished collectors often felt otherwise. As far as I know, this remains an open debate. What I can say, is that I took every possible measure to ensure that my non-SMS coins were, exactly that. Q. David Bowers states in A Guide Book of Washington and State Quarters that “unless Special Mint Set coins have cameo contrast and are prooflike, they can be indistinguishable from regular issues” (they, being 65-67). He also states that “Denver quarters bore no mintmark in 1965 and thus appeared identical to Philadelphia coins.” Does anyone know whether or not Denver also produced any 1966 or 67 business strikes? With a mintage of 1,819,717,540 1965 business strike coins, are we now able to differentiate the P’s vs. D’s? Will they remain indistinguishable?


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    Last edited: Oct 25, 2018
  16. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

  17. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    212 Coins...is this the set?

    Business
    1932
    1932-D
    1932-S
    1934 Light Motto
    1934 Medium Motto
    1934 Heavy Motto
    1934-D
    1935
    1935-D
    1935-S
    1936
    1936-D
    1936-S
    1937
    1937-D
    1937-S
    1938
    1938-S
    1939
    1939-D
    1939-S
    1940
    1940-D
    1940-S
    1941
    1941-D
    1941-S
    1942
    1942-D
    1942-S
    1943
    1943-D
    1943-S
    1944
    1944-D
    1944-S
    1945
    1945-D
    1945-S
    1946
    1946-D
    1946-S
    1947
    1947-D
    1947-S
    1948
    1948-D
    1948-S
    1949
    1949-D
    1950
    1950-D
    1950-S
    1951
    1951-D
    1951-S
    1952
    1952-D
    1952-S
    1953
    1953-D
    1953-S
    1954
    1954-D
    1954-S
    1955
    1955-D
    1956
    1956-D
    1957
    1957-D
    1958
    1958-D
    1959
    1959-D
    1960
    1960-D
    1961
    1961-D
    1962
    1962-D
    1963
    1963-D
    1964
    1964-D
    1965
    1966
    1967
    1968
    1968-D
    1969
    1969-D
    1970
    1970-D
    1971
    1971-D
    1972
    1972-D
    1973
    1973-D
    1974
    1974-D
    1976 CLAD
    1976-D CLAD
    1976-S SILVER
    1977
    1977-D
    1978
    1978-D
    1979
    1979-D
    1980-P
    1980-D
    1981-P
    1981-D
    1982-P
    1982-D
    1983-P
    1983-D
    1984-P
    1984-D
    1985-P
    1985-D
    1986-P
    1986-D
    1987-P
    1987-D
    1988-P
    1988-D
    1989-P
    1989-D
    1990-P
    1990-D
    1991-P
    1991-D
    1992-P
    1992-D
    1993-P
    1993-D
    1994-P
    1994-D
    1995-P
    1995-D
    1996-P
    1996-D
    1997-P
    1997-D
    1998-P
    1998-D

    Proof
    1936
    1937
    1938
    1939
    1940
    1941
    1942
    1950
    1951
    1952
    1953
    1954
    1955
    1956
    1957
    1958
    1959
    1960
    1961
    1962
    1963
    1964
    1965 SMS
    1966 SMS
    1967 SMS
    1968-S
    1969-S
    1970-S
    1971-S
    1972-S
    1973-S
    1974-S
    1976-S CLAD
    1976-S SILVER
    1977-S
    1978-S
    1979-S
    1980-S
    1981-S
    1982-S
    1983-S
    1984-S
    1985-S
    1986-S
    1987-S
    1988-S
    1989-S
    1990-S
    1991-S
    1992-S
    1992-S SILVER
    1993-S
    1993-S SILVER
    1994-S
    1994-S SILVER
    1995-S
    1995-S SILVER
    1996-S
    1996-S SILVER
    1997-S
    1997-S SILVER
    1998-S
    1998-S SILVER
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2018
  18. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    It's very close to that list! I only have one of the 1934 varieties but have a Type 1 and Type 2 for the 79-S and 81-S proofs.
     
  19. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Cool. Thanks for clarifying. I was at 210 coins so I had to guess which 2 varieties you had added.

    Awesome set and story behind it.
     
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  20. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    Thank you Corgi and congrats to you!
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I've gotta pee......
     
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