In Honour of Divus Vespasian

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  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Vespasian died of a stomach ailment at Reate, Italia 1,939 years ago today. Considered one of the 'good' Twelve Caesars by Suetonius, he did much to restore the empire after the disastrous Year of the Four Emperors and set it on a successful course for the next 150 years.


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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.08g
    Rome mint, 71 AD
    RIC 49 (R2). BMC p. 14 note. RSC 643 var.
    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: No legend. Vespasian laureate, standing in triumphal quadriga r., horses pacing, holding branch in r. hand and sceptre in l.
    Acquired from Ephesus Numismatics, December 2005.

    The reverse celebrates Vespasian and Titus' joint Judaean Triumph at Rome in 71, probably one of Vespasian's proudest moments. I believe this would be one of Vespasian's favourite reverses.

    This triumphal type is normally encountered from Antioch, this is the very rare Rome mint version. Why it wasn't struck in vast numbers at Rome is a mystery.

    Please share you favourite coins of Vespasian.
     
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  3. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Great coin David. I have so many "favorite" Vespasian coins but here's one at the top of my list

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    RIC 1464 Vespasian Ephesus denarius

    IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS V TR PPP
    Laureate head right

    CONCORDIA AVG
    Concordia seated left, annulet below, star in Exergue

    3.41g

    Ephesus 74 AD

    RIC 1464 (R2)

    And one from Titus proclaiming Vespasian's divinity

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    RIC 361 Vespasian denarius by Titus

    DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS
    Laureate head of Divus Vespasian to right.

    EX S C
    Empty quadriga advancing left, ornamented with a miniature quadriga flanked by Victories at the top and two standing figures on the side.

    Rome, 80-1 AD
    3.24g

    RIC II 361 (Titus); BMCRE 119 (Titus); RSC 146
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice one, David! My favorite coin of Vespasian is one I don't yet have :D

    This is a my favorite Vespasian but I don't have many from which to choose.

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Vespasian
    year 4, CE 71/2
    Diobol (very underweight; thin flan), 25.4 mm, 5.45 gm
    Obv: AVTOKKAIΣΣEBAOVEΣΠAΣIANOV; laureate head right
    Rev: bust of Isis left; LΔ in right field
    Ref: Emmett 217.4
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Vespasian 13.jpg
    VESPASIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: COS ITER TR POT, Pax seated left, holding branch and caduceus
    Struck at Rome, 69-71 AD
    3.31g, 18mm
    RIC 29; RSC 94h; Sear 2285
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Quality instead of quantity. That is a superb Alexandrian!

    Remarkable how that portrait resembles the ones on the tetradrachms. Evidently, the same engravers worked on both the billon and bronze.

    RPC2416.jpg Vespasian
    AR Tetradrachm, 12.72g
    Alexandria mint, 69-70 AD
    RPC 2416 (7 spec.).
    Obv: AYTOK KAIΣ ΣEBA OYEΣΠAΣIANOY; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r., date LB before neck
    Rev: Τ ΦΛΑΥΙ ΟΥΕΣΠΑΣΙΑΝΟΣ ΚΑΙΣ; laureate head of Titus, r.
    Ex CNG E377, 29 June 2016, The Hermanubis collection, lot 28.
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My favorite which I've shown a number of times:
    Vespasian 10.jpg
    VESPASIAN
    Æ Dupondius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M T P COS V CENS, radiate head left
    REVERSE: FELICITAS PVBLICA S-C, Felicitas standing facing, head left, holding caduceus & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 74AD
    10.2g, 28mm
    RIC 716, (RIC [1962] 555), Cohen 152, BMC 698
    Ex: J.Q. Adams
     
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  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great post David. I have several coins of Vespasian, but I think I will limit my reply to this one from the E.E. Clain Stefanelli collection. RIC 544.
    vespasian ric 544.jpg
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    These two are my favorites at the moment.

    Vespasian - Divus Double Capricorn Neussel 2574.jpg
    DIVUS VESPASIAN
    AR Denarius. 3.06g, 19mm. Rome mint, struck under Titus, AD 80-81. RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497. O: DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS, laureate head right. R: Two capricorns back to back, supporting shield inscribed S C set on globe.
    Ex Dr Walter Neussel Collection

    Vespasian - Denarius Judaea 2503.jpg
    VESPASIAN
    AR Denarius. 3.05g, 18.4mm. Rome mint, 21 October 69 - early 70. RIC 2; Cohen 226; BMC 35; Hendin 1479. O: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right. R: Judaea seated right on ground in attitude of mourning, trophy set on shields behind her; IVDAEA in exergue.
    Ex Prof. Dr. Hilbrecht Hommel Collection, with tag noting acquisition date 15 Feb 1943
     
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    great info and coin David.. my best pic is of the group, but i guess my fav is the toned one of him vespasian and sons nero coins 001.JPG vespasian and sons nero coins 004.JPG Vespasian & Sons Inc.
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice Triumphal @David Atherton . Love the simple reverse design... no legend, just a great scene. Reminds me of RR Denarii, like Sulla's

    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AR Quinarius Victory seated wreath palm RIC 802 Rare.jpg
    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AR Quinarius Victory seated wreath palm RIC 802 Rare

    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AE Dupondius Felicitas stdg caduceus cornucopia sinister left.jpg
    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AE Dupondius Felicitas stdg caduceus cornucopia sinister left
     
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  12. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Were any of all the Caesars especially "good" ? With respect to Suetonius, I wonder.....
     
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  13. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I have about a half-dozen examples of Vespy issues, and although the below coin isn't the highest grade or prettiest of the little group -- it is my favorite.

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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member


    Well, it's time for a consecration issue then

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    Vespasianus, Antoninianus Rome mint AD 250/251
    DIVO VESPASIANO Radiate head right
    CONSECRATIO Large altar
    4.13 gr
    Ref : RIC IV # 80, Cohen # 652, RCV # 9461
    in qblay's catalog : VE31/P178

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  15. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Having, just briefly, studied Suetonius and Michael Grant about Vespasian, although he was not a "saint", and shared some of the faults and discrepancies as many Caesars, for instance the occasional execution, in comparison, he appears to have been a, relatively, "good" Caesar. He had a sense of humour, and some of his jokes live on. Critically, while governor of Judea, his task was to suppress the First Jewish Revolt. The Roman Empire was no modern democracy, and many lands were also attacked around that time. He celebrated Brutus' and Cassius' birthdays each year. They had assassinated Julius Caesar, who himself had innumerable deaths to his name. Vespasian had banished Helvidius, and ordered his execution. Suetonius says that "His (Vespasian) one serious failure was avarice", and, further on, "Some claim that greed was in Vespasian's very bones. It would appear that, together with some better qualities, he did have a reputation for stinginess - although there may well be some occasions when he showed generosity.
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have shown my favorite coins of Vespasian too many times here when he has come up before. Instead I will show a Provincial AE22 of Philadelphia in Lydia with Zeus. The reverse legend is not complete but shows the need for a second row to include two magistrate names and the city. Perhaps I have been on Coin Talk too long but I would like to show different coins if only I knew which ones I have shown before.
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  17. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    My 2 favourite Vespasians , a high grade and a low grade:

    Vespasian Pax 2v.jpg

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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Curious... I always liked Vespasian, based on my readings in History.

    However, I cannot help to notice that to what I have read about Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf; Vespasian and Schwarzkopf seem similar in personalities (to the good).

    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AR Denarius Jupiter Sacrificing IOVI CONSERVAT.jpg
    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AR Denarius Jupiter Sacrificing IOVI CONSERVAT
     
  19. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Some real beauties so far! I'll bring it back to the quadrigas from Rome.

    Vespasian:

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    Titus:
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  20. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

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    Vespasian, AD 1 Jul 69-24 Jun 79
    AR, Denarius, 3.09g, 18mm; 6h; Rome, Jan-Jun AD 70
    Obv.: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; laureate head right
    Rev.: COS ITER TR POT; Pax seated left on chair without back, branch in right hand, caduceus in left

    This is my only Vespasian so it's my favorite by default!

    I take my history dispassionately, it's useless to use contemporary morals to make judgement calls on the behavior of the ancients.
     
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  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A consecration issue is on my want list. Very nice!
     
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