Please post a Delmatius (Caesar 335-337)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Clavdivs, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    A real beauty.. surprised you lost on that one!
     
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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    This is one where going by the slab would cause you to overpay by a lot.
     
  4. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Eye of the beholder, I guess, but with all due respect for your feelings that coin was not a beauty. Too many unclear letters in the inscription, and too much mountainous terrain on the surfaces.



    I realize that magnification can make a nice coin surface look a bit lunar, but with all due respect I would not put that coin in the Choice XF category. I am dumbfounded that NGC did that. The coins of Delmatius are not so rare that compromised surfaces might still be classed as CH XF. If it was originally bought based on the NGC grade assignment, then as Sev. Al hinted it is not surprising that you took a beating on the resale.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Exactly! This one demonstrates the fact NGC grades obverses only. That reverse is neither choice nor EF.
     
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  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    To be fair, it is an old slab from before the time they evaluated surfaces and strike. I'm sure NGC would do much better on this coin now.
     
  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Neither is the obverse which is far from "choice". Delmatius is not uncommon in much better condition.

    DelmatiusHighGrade.jpg
    Too glossy to photograph well!
    FL DEMATIVS NOB C
    Lovely centering and glossy surfaces.
    RIC VII Siscia 266 "r3" with two other varieties r4 and r5. (But, it is not really that rare.)
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    My only Delmatius, it is in need of an upgrade. I am a fan of the GLORIA EXERCITVS types so I'm happy I have Delmatius with this reverse type.

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    Delmatius, AD 335-337
    AE, AE4, 16mm, 1.78g; 5h; Heraclea
    Obv.: FL DELMATIVS NOB CAES; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: GLOR-IAEXERC-ITVS; two soldiers holding spears and shields with one standard between them with dot on banner
    In Ex.: SMHΓ
     
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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's quite a find. The issues with two standards before the currency reform and reissue at a lower weight standard are scarce for Delmatius.

    I have only the one-standard, lower weight, version of this coin. From Siscia, too, as is quite common (there must have been a hoard found).

    Delmatius GLORIA EXERCITVS Siscia.jpg
    Delmatius, as Caesar, AD 335-337.
    Roman billon reduced centenionalis, 1.47g, 16.4 mm, 1 h.
    Siscia, AD 336-337.
    Obv: FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers standing facing each other, each resting on on spear and shield, one standard between them; BSIS in exergue.
    Refs: RIC vii, p. 458, 256; LRBC 758; Cohen 4; RCV 16894.
     
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  11. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    My only example is from the Thessalonica mint; quite a different portrait style than usual.

    Delmatius gloria exercitus.jpg
     
  12. Topcat7

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    (My) DELMATIUS 336-7 RIC VII Cyzicus 132
    DELMATIUS 336-7 RIC VII Cyzicus 132.jpg
     
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