Error Expert Help Needed for this Unique .2 Gram COPPER layer Jefferson 5c

I don't even know where to begin with this...

It is like a struck clad layer, with a blurry and mirrored non-Struck side and a detailed struck side...except it is a copper layer weighing .2 grams.

Nickels don't have copper cores and they aren't clad layered, though they do contain copper. But if the copper were, say, the core of a dime struck by nickel dies, it is still way too thin. Higher denominations would be even thicker. Or is it part of a split planchet from a copper cent planchet???

Where did this thin copper layer come from? I suppose a clad layer of something fell off, then the copper core got struck by nickel dies, and then the struck copper core itself split apart. And is there also a clip (in front of Jefferson's face), or just how it broke off? What a bizarre and fascinating error!

Anyone with any knowledge of this type of error, please feel free to advise.

(I just wish PCGS could have turned the coin a bit so it wasnt covering up the date.)

 

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Wow..
Must of been struck on some foreign Planchet that had a Copper Layer and it became detached. Very interesting.
I have something similiar that became detached.. Just the layer
1957 Argentina 1 Peso -

 

Part of a split copper cent planchet possibly? I am thinking "no" because of how smooth and clearly defined the other side of the struck area is. It has to be an actual "layer" and not a split, right?

 

I don't think it's from a cent planchet .
look like someone put a strip of copper in the press and there it is .

 

Actual layer..
And if you noticed it was not attributed as a Mint Error.. Not stated on the label. It's more of an oddity.

 

Here's a nickel struck on a cent planchet .

 

i have one on my avatar

 

I don't get it. Why would this not be an error? How can it not be? Did they just not have room on the label?

 

Mis-annealed planchets can have copper
colored, and actual thin copper 'plating'
on the planchet, mostly seen on Nickels.

This 1968 (old) Nickel was a thin layer
of copper, probably from the buildup of
copper pulled from the nickel planchet
when it was annealed; that thin layer
found it's way into the striking chamber
(probably laying on, but not being bonded to)
a normal nickel planchet.

It was struck, and detached - that's why you
see an incused Obv. on the reverse of this
'shell'.

Very similar to what Paddyman98 posted.

 

Exactly how rare is this type of error? Can you estimate a value? Always good to hear from our resident expert in CA.

 

I've only seen a few 'thin copper' layers like this
over the decades, so they would be considered
very scarce.

As far as value - there are no Trends on many errors,
including this type of item. I'd say it's worth what you
were willing to pay for it, right?

 

I'm sorry, my friend. I am embarrassed to ask, but does the small print mean I should nit bother acquiring such a piece? (Are they like waffled coins which really dont have a premium?)

 

The smaller print on that last line of mine is an 'error' - I must
have touched a key that did that...I tried three times to correct it,
but couldn't....now the type size seems to be back to normal. It
didn't have anything to do with the price, or my message content.

You mentioned does that 'mean I should not bother acquiring such a piece?'

Have you bought the coin already? (I assumed)

Or are you being offered it? If so, you can state the price you're
being quoted on it, and we can give you some feedback on the price
asked.

 

I'm sorry, my friend. I am embarrassed to ask, but does the small print mean I should not bother acquiring such a piece? (Are they like waffled coins which really dont have a premium?)

 

Well, he asked $750. I am not sure if even half that is worth it. Sorry for the repeat post

 

Do you need it for your Type Set of Mint Errors?

Have you been looking for something like this for years?

Is it going to be a permeant coin in your collection, or
do you think you might want to sell it in a few years?

Those are the questions you can ask yourself, to see if
it is worth than price level to you.

Although anyone can price their inventory as they like,
it seems high to me.

 

Well, I only collect errors. I like off metals, wrong planchets, broadstrikes, off centers, stock errors, double denominations, double or multi struck coins, missing clad errors, plating errors, and a couple variety types. I have a few detached clad layers, both struck and unstruck, but nothing like this. To have a nickel struck on a copper super thin layer is cool, bizarre, rare, and eye catching.

I don't sell my errors. I am building a nice collection, many from you, and plan to show them off at the university near my home for a few months, and are meant to be left to my family and hopefully never sold.

 

Sounds like they are trying to take advantage because this is something you are interested in. If you don't mind to risk losing it, I'd say the price is too high and to sell to someone else. Then when they can't they will come back to you at half that price. But there is the risk you may lose it.

 

I told him it is likely that very few people would even consider buying something like that, that I am not a dealer looking to flip it, and that I don't really need the item but it is also a very nice piece. If I can get him to around 300 I think I will buy it. It's just so bizarre to be struck on something like that and it's immediately noticeable that something is wrong with it. It doesn't hurt that it's in a PCGS label and has a decent grade. I doubt I will ever come across one of these again.

 

Sold!