1981 High grade Ms

Then that's what I got thank you

 

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A strong cartwheel effect is a pretty clear sign that it's not a proof.

The photos show the same texture across devices and fields. What are you seeing?

 

Major cart wheel i wana take a video you know that the frosting they put on the devices that's covered with Lincoln and inside the memorial pillars and on the steps so I looked at a regular strike high-grade coin that I have there is none of that this is what the difference is on this coin plus it's a deep cameo and it's like over spray that bleeds into the fields but it doesn't go across it's just it stops

 

Cartwheel probably means it isn't a proof.

 

The cart wheel stops as you cross over the Lincoln portrait

 

It looks nothing like a proof.

 

The liberty and the date also jump off the Cameo effect of the fields I just noticed

 

Your image makes it clear that this in not a proof.

 

I know my pictures of terrible I'm sorry there's nothing I can do about that you have to see the coin in person in comparison to them 64 proof this thing is identical if not better than a proof penny

 

Well I appreciate all your feedback thank you guys

 

Your light is to concentrated, definitely for a fingered 2*2 flip.
Stop using magnification to try and get details. move closer to the coin and adjust the light accordingly.
Take the coin out of the darn flip,

 

It's also listed in wexler's as a doubled die reverse W DDR 02

 

Guys.. Willie is not giving up.. If he says it's a proof then it's a proof

(In My Honest Opinion it is not.. sorry Willie)

 

Proof like ms 63

 

Oh wait wddr 001

 

Definitely not proof or proof like. Just a fairly nice business strike.

 

There is no cameo whatsoever on that coin, just a normal business strike.

 

No Mint Mark on Lincoln Cents means it was minted at the Philadelphia Mint.. They didn't use a P Mint Mark until last year 2017.. And that was the last time they will do it.