hone your grading skills -- Liberty Double Eagle

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Leadfoot, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    NOTE: A second set of photos are shown in a post below.....

    Another one where there's no right or wrong answers. This coin was purchased and remains raw. Please provide a grade for this coin, and disucss how you arrived at the grade.

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    Have fun & Happy Holidays...Mike
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    A large, heavy, soft coin like this is allowed more bag marks so I would grade this coin a 63.
     
  4. CoinGal07

    CoinGal07 Still Collecting

    nice ~ are you going to get it graded tpg? if so, we'll all cross our fingers you get a 64 or 65 ... :)
     
  5. monkeyman

    monkeyman Coin Hoarder

  6. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Absolute best is MS63, quite likely a 62. Way way WAY too many bag marks to be considered for MS64.

    A little softly struck in the hair above the coronet, and behind and above Liberty's ear. Stars 1, 2, and 3 lack detail - most of the others are pretty good.

    Reverse is pretty solid.

    Very nice cartwheel luster.
     
  7. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

  8. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    If not for the big dings on the obv, I would say 63, but my guess is 62. Nice fields on rev, so Obv 62, Rev 64
     
  9. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    MS60. To beaten up/worn for a 62. Not worth more than melt. Fills a hole in the 7070 gold page but I don't see a benfit in paying $30 bucks for slabbing.
     
  10. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I don't know a lot of gold and I'm too lazy to get the ANA book out, so I'm gonna guess.

    I guess AU-58.

    Here's why I come to that, by guessing.
    Please correct me if I am blatantly wrong.

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  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Here's a new photo for you guys. Shhhh..... I opened a present a bit early. ;)

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  12. ozland tiger

    ozland tiger Senior Member

    I have a hard time grading gold. With that caveat, I would peg this coin as Mint State 61.
     
  13. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I'm with Oz. I find gold hard to grade.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd have to go with AU55. There are luster breaks on all of the high points both obv & rev. that indicate light wear. And there are several spots on the coin where it appears that the detail has been flattened from wear instead of not being fully struck up.
     
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  15. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    It's a pretty nice AU.
     
  16. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    A pretty wide variance on grading opinions ! All the way from AU55 up to MS65 !

    So I'm dying to know - coin in hand, are those flat spots on the obverse wear / luster breaks or just soft strike ?

    Your thoughts, Leadfoot ?
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    900fine,

    I'm not really sure.

    Part of me wants to call those areas cabinet or stacking friction, but another part of me wants to call it high-point wear. To make things even more complicated, clearly the obverse has some strike issues centrally.

    I think this coin is either a high-end AU (55 or 58) or a low end MS (62 or 63). I would probably lean towards a 62 because there's no real luster imparement in the fields. But I truly don't follow this series enough to feel confident in my assessment.

    The coin was purchased raw on eBay a few years ago, something I would likely not do today. I paid about $40 over melt for it...luckily gold was a $420 at the time -- there's nothing quite like rising bullion to overcome grading shortcomings. ;)

    Anyway, thanks to everyone for their grades and comments. I appreciate it and hope you all enjoyed it...Mike
     
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  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    mike if you find more pieces like these at lil over melt give me a hola ;)
     
  19. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

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