I missed this thread during the dark days after Irma and Maria. Glad it was revived! Wonderful Gallienus griffin, @TJC . @maridvnvm, your Papius parade is always awe-inspiring. One of these days I'll finally be top bidder on one. Does anyone else think Griffindor instead of griffin when they see these, or am I just a hopeless Potterhead? TROAS, Alexandria. Trebonianus Gallus CE 251-253 AE 21 mm, 4.76 gm Obv: IMP VIB TREB GALVS AV; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev: COL AV / TROA; Apollo, head right and holding kithara, seated facing on griffin springing right, head left Ref: RPC IX 407; Bellinger A403 Only three others found in ACsearch. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-depiction-of-apollo.290702/ IONIA, Teos AR diobol (reduced standard), 10 mm, 0.98 gm Obv: seated griffin right, paw raised Rev: lyre, THI, magistrate’s name
Here is a baby Griff: IONIA Teos AR tetartemorion 0.2g 6mm Hd Griffin R mouth open - Quadripartite incuse SNG Turkey 602
TJC started this thread with the call " Post your Griffins!!! (ancient coins, Busts, Friezes, modern coins,...etc) Lets see some griffins!!!" I was about to post a 1609 German griffin from Pomerania but, seeing this polite reminder, I will refrain
The first was struck in Troas- Assos 4th cent. BC. Griffin seated left on reverse, and crested Athena head - right on obverse. SNGvA 7587. The second coin is dated 1705 and has Leopold I on obverse. Reverse shows possibly 2 heads of Griffin.
By all means please post it. I had not seen his comments inviting other than Ancients. Many times we have Modern participants just post their comments without regard that they are in the Ancients Forum. Usually they were just pushing their agendas rather than respecting the Ancients audience.
Encouraged by the postings above, here is my modest little griffin coin POMERANIA-WOLGAST Philipp Julius Copper Pfennig 1609 Rev.: Crowned griffin left
I have no agenda. I would not think all ancient coin collectors would mind some relatively modern coins. Someone is just focused on ancients coins only. you need to loosen up. chill out man.
The general type is not rare and can readily be found in good condition. Note that there are symbols on each side of the coin; each die had only one symbol and both obverse and reverse symbols were related. As a result, while the type is not rare, certain symbol combinations can be quite rare, and the more interesting symbols tend to command a substantial premium. By way of example, at a recent NAC auction, I targeted a VF example with very interesting (to me) voting symbols - a ballot and a ballot bucket. It sold for considerably more than I paid for my pictured coin and my coin is in much better condition. Beware of the symbol collectors!
Germany POMERANIA Bogislaw XIV Reichstaler 1631 with coat of arms full of griffins: Rev.arms: Stettin (griffin r.), Pomerania (griffin r.), Cassubia (griffin l.), Wenden (griffin r.), Cammin (cross) over Rugen (lion l.), Usedom(griffin l. with fish tail), Barth (griffin r.), Gutzkow (St.Andrew's cross with roses in angles) and Wolgast (griffin l. over checky field) .
Bogislaw XIV was the last Duke of Pomerania. He became, reluctantly, embroiled in the Thirty Year's War, causing, in early 1630's, a stroke, which left him partially paralyzed. In 1634 he abdicated, without clear succession, resulting in a power struggle. Most of Pomerania became occupied by Swedish and imperial troops. Bogislaw died in 1637, aged 56. Conflicts re. Pomerania's future etc. resulted in postponement of burying Bogislaw's body for almost 20 years ! His Noble family was (sic !) House of Griffins !!!
Sorry but some of us date back to when we most certainly did have an agenda. Coin Talk had a section that lumped together world moderns and anything else that was non US. After months of being pests to management we were granted our separate 'Ancients' section leaving the World area to collectors of Euros. The World area here on CT still bears the label World Coins Discussion relating to world coins. Including, but not limited to, the new Euro coins. Perhaps we could have lobbied for a section for ancients, medieval and early world coins. Perhaps there would be support for some additional sections where machine made but no longer current coins would be featured but that is not what we have today. Most of us are happy to see posts of coins too late to be ancient but still not bullion made for collecting or pocket change from a vacation. What we don't need is drop in experts telling us never to clean coins or promoting the latest NCLT and meltables. I encourage those who have no interest in 'old' coins to post in one of the several sections aimed at modern issues. Perhaps we should have lobbied for a section for 'serious' coins but that would seem offensive. Perhaps collectors of serious modern coins more like Talers than Euros should have posted more back in the day when the unchilled and uptight ancient group wanted a place for their posts where the title did not need to mention that it was OK to discuss something other than the 'new Euro coins'.
