Sabina Denarius Roma 128-136 AD Tellus eastern mint

Well, as the update to RIC is a work in progress I imagine much isnt finalized as yet but I am sure there are specific reasons to attribute it to an Eastern mint. I am guessing that for most of us those reasons will come in the form of the book when its published. Unless of course anyone can ask the BM about it. Im not that interested,

 

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Here is more information in eastern mints

 

The eastern mints are lacking in information in most reference guides (RIC, BMC). There are several that hit the market from time to time that are not identified as such. I did try to acquire as many as I could for a while but one can only have so many numismatic distractions....

 

Ken, I have not seen anyone other than Oki that attributes this coin to an Eastern mint, and he has simply asserted it. If there is an authority somewhere that does that, a specific reference to it might settle the matter, at least for now. However, when Curtis Clay looked at the picture he too had reservations about attributing it to an Eastern mint.

A work in progress is one thing; a work of pure imagination is another. Does ANYBODY have anything on this coin that nails this down or even tries to make the case?

 

I agree still can be done,even for less, I paid $70 incl. shipment and juice for this one:

 

That's a nice one. She's got the same cool hairdo.

 

eastern mint


SABINA, wife of Hadrian. Died 137 AD. AR Denarius (2.89 gm). Uncertain eastern mint. Diademed and draped bust left, hair bound in queue down back / Seven-pointed star within crescent. RIC II -; cf. BMCRE pg. 361, b; RSC 35a. Good VF. Very Rare. ($1000)
Another specimen is cited in BMCRE where it is referred to as a hybrid which employs a reverse of Hadrian.

 

ROMANS
ROMAN EMPEROR TIME
Sabina, 119 (?) - 136/137 AD. AE Denar (2.73g). ca. 134 - 138 AD Mzst. unknown. Obv .: SABINA AVGVSTA, draped bust with Stephane n.r. Rev .: TELLVS STABIL, Tellus n.l. standing with rake and plow, r. two ears of corn. RIC cf. 390 (Vs.); 276 (Rs.); C. cf. 3 (Vs.); 1425 (Rs.). RRR! Hybrid embossing! Contemporary imitation! Tint, partly green editions, Vs. Graffiti & Scratches, ss-vz The obverse of the coins comes from a stamp for Sabina, the wife of Hadrian. The backface type is embossed by Hadrian (RIC 276, c.

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good point

 

I sold these yesterday at my auction on Biddr, $50 and $55:



Did I make any profit on them? No, but that is another topic.

 

@lordmarcovan , Rob, I think the strategy is bid low on coins in auctions , often openingbids, if your outbid, so what ? you keep your money in your pocket.
And if you win the coin, you have a bargain
You can't loose eigher way. Ofcause you must have a indication of the marketvalue of the coins your bidding on. check out Vcoins and CoinArchives for instance.

 

This reads like an auction lot description. May I ask whose description is this? When you look this coin up in BMCRE it is listed among the hybrids, as the description correctly notes, but there is nothing in BMCRE about an eastern mint. The describer added that. Basis? Similarly with regard to the OP coin and the lot description in the Gorny and Mosch sale (auf deutsch), which is the substance of your second post, except in that case they do not say anything about an uncertain eastern mint. (I assume that you made that post in order to give the rest of the list an English translation of the G&M description.)

Be that as it may, there is no dispute that this coin is known to have been sold before, nor that it is listed in BMCRE (hybrid J). But no authority on Roman Coins so far presented has listed this coin as the product of an Eastern mint. The most they will say is that it is a hybrid of uncertain origin. It is a long leap to go from that to the inference that it is the product of an eastern mint.

The hybrids are listed in BMCRE because the specimens exist and are deemed to be ancient, but the editor rejects them as products of the mint at Rome, and regards them as dubious as authentic currency. They stay under that cloud until some kind of exonerating evidence comes along. Unsupported speculation is not evidence. Is that all we've actually got here?

 

Wonderful denarius Eric!

I would assume that these Eastern Hadrianic denarii, much like their Flavian counterparts, are detected by style?

 

yes by style, by errors by legend style ect.
also metallurgic analis, there are near 200 eastern mints, (incl busts variations)
also it looks like every rome minted type there is a
Fourée, Limes, Plated, Imitation or a barbarous counterfeit

best

eric

 

this is the same coin as OP

 

Curtis had no reservations on it being eastern but it being a mule.
hybride is the wrong term as stated in auction
like i said eastern it is as BM RIC III will show when it's ready i guess.

 

Sabina, 119 (?) - 136/137 AD. AE Denar (2.73g). ca. 134 - 138 AD Mzst. unknown. Obv .: SABINA AVGVSTA, draped bust with Stephane n.r. Rev .: TELLVS STABIL, Tellus n.l. standing with rake and plow, r. two ears of corn. RIC cf. 390 (Vs.); 276 (Rs.); C. cf. 3 (Vs.); 1425 (Rs.). RRR! Hybrid embossing! Contemporary imitation! Tint, partly green editions, Vs. Graffiti & Scratches, ss-vz The obverse of the coins comes from a stamp for Sabina, the wife of Hadrian. The backface type is embossed by Hadrian (RIC


same coin as yours/ same bust

 

It's a very neat style. Cool addition