Yes or No?( Part 2)

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by shilines, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It's the mirror lens. It uses curved mirrors instead of (or in addition to) lenses, and because of the way they're arranged, there's an obstruction in the middle of the aperture, instead of the usual iris around the edge. That means out-of focus highlights are donut-shaped, and extended out-of-focus areas look like, well, the original images we're talking about.

    But you wouldn't use one of those lenses for close-up work, so I'm wondering what is going on...
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Ah... the ever-lovely doughnut bokeh. :)

    I've very little experience with such lenses, using a borrowed one for only a few days back in the mid 80's, but have been keeping an eye out for one mostly just as something to play with on lazy summer days. Unfortunately, the Vivitar cats, Rubinars, etc, are usually priced somewhat above the toy range, so my inexperience continues.

    Could it be that the OP's camera's software is somehow enhancing the images and what we're seeing is just an unintended consequence? Just an off the wall guess, but I too would like to know what's causing it. Anyway, thanks for the explanation!

    Are you into photography, Jeff?
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's actually quite likely. I don't have Photoshop running these days, but I know the "glowing edges" filter did something very much like that, and I'll bet over-aggressive sharpening could do something similar.

    At this point, I'd have to say "I used to be". :( I was a gearhead, and very wrapped up in technique and image processing, but I have absolutely no hint of an artistic eye. I produced some very nice photos, but I basically had to have someone else pick out which ones were good. I can look at them and see how they tick off various elements of composition, story-telling, and so on -- but the ones that really reach out and grab me are rarely the ones that interest anybody else, and vice versa. It made it hard to stay motivated.
     
  5. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    Eh, everybody experiences art differently. If you are creating something for the enjoyment of creation, how others experience it shouldn't really matter (sometimes it does feel pretty good when others feel the same as we feel). If you want to monetize your creations, it turns into a quest to create things that the most number of other persons will generally enjoy. In truth, there are very very few professional artists who create what they find personally enjoyable and intriguing. They work on their passion when they have the time, but everybody's gotta pay the bills somehow. In today's society, for a talented artist, the money is usually in marketing, game design, web design, etc. Someday we'll find out the most talented artist of our generation spent their life creating web ads for Nike ;P...
     
  6. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    Thank You
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Glad to see you still around. How're the pictures doing?
     
  8. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    I took a little break but I am back at it. Learning how to take better pictures I think. Anyway, I will let you be the judge if you don't mind. I have two 1969s coins that may or may not be the doubled die. 1970s large date ddo , small date ddo, or perhaps it's just the small date. 1983 dd reverse, and a 1995 ddo maybe. On the 1969s I cropped a genuine coin from online and cropped my picture of mg coin and placed it right under the genuine to compare. My coin is on the bottom of those pictures.
     

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  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    You still need better focus in the pictures. Since I often use a self-focusing camera, I know it is hard to get it to make a sharp focus on a coin. A trick I started using was to photograph the coin on a page of printed matter. The camera will focus more easily on the printed words and be pretty close for the coin.
     
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  10. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member


    Good luck... I couldn't get the hang of knitting that's why I'm stuck being a coin nerd ;)
     
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  11. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    Going to try that in a few,
     
  12. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    Hey Kentucky check these pictures out. I took a photo of my 1969s and sent it to a photo editing app that can change the color filters of the object. It helps you see things differently. Tell me what you think. Going to try your idea in a little while, anxious to see what results it may land me.
     

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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @shilines Are you looking for confirmation that you have the rare and valuable 1969-S Doubled die, or are you trying to get information to determine if it's the minor DDO-002 listed in Varity Vista http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/DDO 1969-S.htm or another minor DDO? Even with the pic quality (not a slam, I take terrible coin pics), your coin doesn't look anything like the valuable DDO-001. If you have that one, it will be obvious to the naked eye (or a little magnification if you're have lousy eyesight). I know that pics of the rare one have been posted on your threads previously, so you may want to go back and review them.

    Please be aware that the DDO-002 or any potential new micro DDO will have minimal value. There are a few collectors on here that enjoy collecting and finding micro doubled dies, but I suspect the majority of people on here believe you're asking about the rare one.

    If you can clarify what information you're after, then I believe you'll find the correct audience to help you.
     
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  14. JustinCB

    JustinCB New Member

    The pictures are blurry, but it looks more doubled than the DDO-002 that you link'd to. It looks more like the DDO-001 to me, but I'm not any kind of expert in coins. A clearer picture is necessary for to say for sure.
     
  15. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    To be quite honest I don't know what kind of help I am looking for. I am still very new to collecting, but I study for hours everyday and have learned a lot. I never new that there were any other varieties of the 1969s ddo. So, to answer your question I guess I was asking for conformation of having found the valuable 69s. I been working on taking better pictures in hopes that you and whoever else can give me their best opinion because I really do trust your advice and opinion. Take a look at these pics if you would. The genuine 69s is the images on top, and my coin is the bottom images. All I do was screen shot the genuine one from online a d cropped it, and did the same thing with my photo and placed them next to each other to really compare.
     

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  16. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    Try these... On the cropped images, my coin is on bottom and a cropping from the genuine 69sddo from online is images on the top.
     

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  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    (looking at the 2 pages of pics) I think you are using your camera/cell phone TOO CLOSE to the cent. Thus it is out of focus. Cameras have this thing called "minimum focus distance" in which it will not focus if too close. Pull it a little further away and let it focus properly; then crop the image closer.

    Also, put it parallel, straight down, not at an angle (unless someone wants and angle).

    Also, as you have learned, put it on a flat surface (and on white or black paper)
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    You go girl
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Can't tell. But think both 70 s. Are large
     
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  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You mean that crazy newfangled thing the kids call autofocus? ;)
     
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  21. shilines

    shilines Active Member

    I think maybe you are right about taking the pictures too close and this might be causing a double blurry effect. I thought that in order for the camera to be able to pick up any type of doubling if there were any it had to be really close. So, if no doubling effect is seen if I pull back some then this means basically it's just not a doubled die correct?
     
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