unknown ancient coins

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  1. old metal

    old metal New Member

    The large one cut in half seems to have a bull on the reverse both eyes facing front

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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    a couple of them appear to be Medieval AH types. Culture of Mohamed..possibly all of them. edited; well @ least two for sure..
     
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  4. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    There are plenty of Greek legend though.
     
  5. old metal

    old metal New Member

    with that half coin those letters on the obverse above the bust (F?R, pi symbol and V or U) and the reverse (R?CIO) plus the bull couldnt find anything on it
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I think the half coin is this (example from CNG's archives):

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=218432

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    287, Lot: 21. Estimate $100.
    Sold for $60. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee.

    SPAIN, Celsa. 44-36 BC. Æ As (29mm, 14.62 g, 2h). C. Balbus and L. Porcius, duoviri. Diademed and draped bust of Victory right, palm frond over shoulder / Bull standing right. ACIP 1493; RPC I 262. Near VF, green patina, light earthen deposits, minor roughness.
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Of the remaining coins, most look Islamic or Arabic or other non-Greek non-Latin type and I have no useful opinion or information for those.

    The top center coin is something I can take a stab at though. It's hard to make out much of anything other than a probably male bust right obverse and eagle reverse. The pose of the eagle looks somewhat familiar and I'm getting a Septimius Severus vibe from the remains of the portrait. Perhaps it is the type shown below? (example from CNG's archives) How does the size of your coin compare to the one below? Also, it's generally a good idea to post size of coins you're posting for ID. The information can be very helpful and is often necessary to the correct ID.

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=192369

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    CNG 88, Lot: 774. Estimate $150.
    Sold for $95. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee.

    THRACE, Philippopolis. Septimius Severus. AD 193-211. Æ (19mm, 4.91 g, 6h). Laureate head right / Eagle standing facing on globe, head and tail right, with wings displayed. Mouchmov, Philippopolis -; Varbanov 1282 corr. (eagle standing on globe, not “animal leg”; this coin illustrated). EF, black-green patina. Rare.
     
  8. old metal

    old metal New Member

    nice find on that one with the bull, and the other one with the eagle mine weighs 2.0g and is 17.6mm diameter also it seems like it says ANTON to the right of the bust
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm, maybe the top right coin is a beat-up or whittled down Byzantine? Is that (C)RISTO(S) on one side of that coin?? Not sure.


    I'm not seeing that but you have a better chance of accurately reading it since it's in your hands :D.

    Here are your images cropped and joined for ease of viewing (it's better to crop and join your images so there's not such a vast amount of wasted space and so viewers don't have to click to see details). Maybe someone else can take a shot at this one.

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  10. old metal

    old metal New Member

    thx for all the help u might be right cause i cant find any antoninus pius from Philippopolis with the eagle reverse
     
  11. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

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  12. old metal

    old metal New Member

    if its the same as the septimus severus u posted could it have lost that much in diameter/weight due to being so worn down
     
  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Sure. In general there is considerable variability in the size and weight of ancient bronze coins. Without searching for many examples of the type I can't say what the range and average weight and diameter is. Maybe the CNG coin is atypically large or was struck on a heavy flan. Maybe yours was on a thinner flan. Yours definitely has lost a lot of metal. A gram? More? Hard to say. I'd say the size is in the ballpark though. As for whether the Septimius Philippoplis guess is correct, I don't know. Definitely a possibility though.
     
  14. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    The smallest coin in the group looks like a fractional silver dirham of the Amirs of Sind, who ruled a territory in what is now Pakistan from about 257-400 AH (=870- 1009 AD). It may be attributable to a specific ruler by someone more knowledgeable.
     
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  15. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    The small Habbarid amir of Sindh dramma is in the name of the ruler Umar. (Last line in second pair of photos)
     
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