unique engraved bust half / civil war token

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  1. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    If the coin would have had any genealogical (family) connections to me I'd be all over it, but alas...

    Thanks for posting :)
    Ben
     
  4. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    It's an extraordinary coin/token engraving if it's real. I don't know how you would ever authenticate it.
     
  5. ACW

    ACW AIM HIGH

    tags similar to these are everywhere and you REALLY have to be careful. There and MANY fakes, etc. that can be found at just about any flea market, collectibles show and antique malls. I bought 2 different designs and names, both on half dollars and each one turned out to be fake. I would have never known if I hadn't stumbled across several more, exactly the same as mine (right down to the dings and patina) at several later locations. I think the coins themselves are real but the engravings are being mass produced.
     
  6. ACW

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    My statement above applies to the ones I purchased and I am not implying that the one in the OP above is fake.

    You also see this with slave tags. Many are produced and sold to tourists. They look ever so real and could fool someone very easily and none of them have "copy" anywhere on them to show they are replicas.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Good detective work Jim.
     
  8. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    i was not familiar with slave tags prior to the previous post. i just read a short article on their significance. apparently all known, genuine slave tags are from Charleston or one it's suburbs...essentially, if it's not from Charleston it is only a ''fantasy token.''
     
  9. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    these pieces can be authenticated using the same methods/diagnostics one authenticates contemporary counter-stamps/marks and chopmarks.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I don't have any idea if it is real, but, darn, it sure looks good.
    A real piece of history if it is real.

    However, that said, why the heck would anyone volunteer the detailed info on the soldier that he posted as an add on for the lot?
    I sure as heck would have kept it a secret and bid, bid, BID!
    Personally, I'll bet it was a bogus add on of info.
     
  11. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    actually, mr. purcell is a well known connoisseur of early us bust halves. he, along with several other bust half nuts are bidding. ...it will be interesting to see what this one closes at. even with the volunteered info...it will probably close at a fraction of it's ''true'' value.
    also...in any auction format, you can get a good feel of the items value just by observing who is doing the bidding.
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I stand corrected, and apologize to all.
    However, why would he supply the info?
    Wouldn't you keep quiet and just bid on it?
    He must be arealy nice guy to be willing to share the info while the auction was acrive.

    Also, does this mean that he believes that the piece is authentic?
     
  13. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    I stand corrected, and apologize to all.

    -no apology is needed

    However, why would he supply the info?

    -he is a really nice guy.

    Wouldn't you keep quiet and just bid on it?

    -yes

    He must be arealy nice guy to be willing to share the info while the auction was acrive.

    -see above

    Also, does this mean that he believes that the piece is authentic?

    -i would assume so, judging from the list of bidders....imo, she is legit and would pursue it if it i had an interest in civil war era wares...but, too modern for me. neat piece though all the same...that is why i posted it.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    A wonderful piece of history.
    It really belongs in a Civil War Historical auction.
     
  15. ACW

    ACW AIM HIGH

    Here's one for ya.....

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    Lt. Col Dorsey Pender CSA 1st North Carolina Reg.
     
  16. ACW

    ACW AIM HIGH

    And the slave tag I mentioned.....

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    rotobeast Old Newbie

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