So why do you think it has dime sized ridges with a silver colored center, sandwiched by copper? Someone personally did that for fun? Is this common? Everyone is telling me it's clear cut "just damaged" but no one can give an explanation. Well I think your missing what I'm saying bud. I can't get the pictures to do it justice but there is a dime ridged/colored center, sandwiched by copper. I'm not sure why you think I came off as knowing everything. I was simply stating what I have and asking you're opinion. I appreciate the comment my friend, take care.
so did it start out as a dime and someone made it a penny? Thanks for the input, I appreciate all the possible knowledge that can be gained from a forum like this. I don't mind constructive criticism at all. To be honest I never imagined someone would spend so much time trying to turn a penny into a dime. Now I do. Thanks again, hope to talk again soon.
It literally would take only a few SECONDS on a lathe with a rasp file to do that. Someone's just trying to cheat a vending machine.
You are arguing points that have already been explained, proven, debunked. Just because you want something to be true, doesn't make it so. It's not a coin that has nickel silver surfaces. It has copper surfaces. A dime planchet doesn't have copper surfaces. Are you just trolling?
No bro, I'm not arguing anything, just asking legit questions from people that know more than I do. You misunderstood what I said but I'm done talking to smug people. Preciate the comment, take care.
Do you think that no one else see's the photos, There is absolutely zero clad with ridged rims, If you think so, you need to have your eyes checked, Seriously your coin doesn't even resemble a dime whatsoever. Take the advice or leave it, it is your choice, Let's see 10 or more folks here that I trust numismaticly vs 1 newbie that thinks he found the Holy Grail. You haven't tis all damage. It is ok everyone here has made mistakes and this won't be your first. Please do some reading on the Minting Process, google is your friend. Good luck.
I never said I had the holy grail. I was simply asking questions to try to understand more of what y'all were saying since I am the only one with the coin in front of me. I prefaced everything by saying I didn't know anything Y'all sure are an unwelcoming group. I never claimed to know everything. If asking questions gets this type response I'll search elsewhere for advice. Thanks buddy.
If arguing that your coin is a dime wearing copper Lincoln clothing, is the same thing as asking a question. Then I have lots to learn. If you want to learn about coins you are in the right place, I would suggest that you rephrase your questions better.
. Asking the question wasn't an issue, but continuing to insist that you have a dime inside a cent after receiving numerous responses to the contrary can bring about the candid replies. Once you learn and understand the process for minting coins, you'll easily see that it is ABSOLUTLY impossible to have a dime inside a cent. It's not going to happen. I will guarantee that if you post this question on other forums you'll get the same answer, Post Mint Damage. Best of luck.
I certainly appreciate the response, I was unsuccessfully trying to figure out what happened to it once I was told what didn't happen to it. I learned today that I don't need to question responses continuously and that there isn't a way of knowing what happens after the minting process. I'll think twice before I ask this crew about an error. Have a good one buddy.
Ok, let's try this. You keep insisting you only want to know how or why it happened. Here's an example of the scenario you're giving. You go outside and find your car's windshield is broken. You take a picture, post it on the forum and ask "What broke my windshield? We can't answer how or why, the only thing we know is it didn't come from the factory like that. We can guess, but have no way of knowing how or why. Just accept the obvious answer, it was intentional and didn't come from the mint like that.
Well, just spend your money and send it to one of the third party graders. It will come back labeled as damaged though. A good understanding of the minting process would go a long way and studying up on it would be time well spent.
Welcome to Cointalk I to I'm new to the hobby I also have been in your situation where I believe that my coin was something that wasn't. So I took the time to learn the minting process and taught myself so that way I was able to come to a conclusion for myself. With that being said I still ask for advice from members here on cointalk because theres no way I can no everything there is about coins. You will find a wealth of knowledge here on this form you also will know who knows what they're talking about and those who don't. So just slow down and listen sometimes you will get the answer you want and sometimes you won't. JMO Dave
I think I answered his question twice about exactly how and what initially happened to it ... Easy, and quick, to duplicate. OP just doesn't want to hear it. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1958-d-nickel-with-strange-rim.316816/#post-3087120
It was not uncommon for people to try and shave off or remove a portion of 1c coins to use as dimes in vending machines before the transition to zinc, which is a harder metal. I have seen several of these before. The edge of this coin is all I need to know it is not a genuine Mint error. It was absolutely, without a doubt, gripped and modified by tools.
I'm not sure there's much I can add at this point. However, I'll try. I'm not a coin expert by any stretch and there are people here much more knowledgeable than I. I was a machinist at one time though and have had plenty of experience working with metal. That shiny metal in the middle that looks like "dime metal" to you is just the material being worked. There's no patina on it that forms on copper after time. You could perform a test on another coin from pre 1982 by simply cutting it with cutters or striking it with a cold chisel to split it. You'd find that you end up with a beveled edge and shiny material that has been worked in the middle. I agree with others that this may have been forced into a holder or held by something causing the "double bevel" look. In any case, it's for sure PMD. Stick around and learn everything you can, there are some very knowledgeable folks here. Just remember, they answer some of these questions on a regular basis and get a lot of pushback from new folks, so cut em a little slack when their patience runs thin.
I want to hear any and all input, it seems that my asking questions was taken as not believing y'all. I'm sorry I gave you the wrong impression. thanks for the response bud, I obviously came off the wrong way trying to ask questions. I was curious a perfect response man, thank you. I think me form of questioning some folks offended them when in reality I was just trying to get multiple opinions and figure out how it was made to look the way it was more than just "damaged". I'm certainly not a metal machinist so I guess my ignorance frustrated people. I appreciate it and hope to learn everything I can.
I was thinking about someone bringing up the possibility of being in a bezel. I could imagine someone trying to make this fit in an undersized bezel, a crude attempt for a bezel of the wrong size and going overboard on the grinding, etc. I can also see this sliding around in this bezel, possibly made of silver and imparting some of the silver color to the cent. Silver being soft and with the rough edges of the coin, this could have happened. All hypothetical of course. The wrong people with the wrong toys can create havoc.
Ii have over 1000 of these dime sise pennyies lot of them in mint condition got bank folls full of them closer to 2000 of them no tampering at all all came from different locations from 1926 to 2018's all decades all have identical shape of sideways slated egg thin and same size as dime no kid or adult filed these these came out of our us mints this way and arre a true us minting error would you all like to see a huge pile of these on my dining table!!!!