Kevin in flan quality control strikes again

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roman Collector, May 19, 2018.

  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I know the Gallic Empire has some quality-control issues, but I think nothing compares to the reign of Gallienus for slipshod workmanship on the part of the mint. Gallienus' coins are consistently inartistic, ragged, malformed, off-center, or weakly struck and that's part of their appeal.

    Here's one I just got around to photographing. This flan is pretty good by Gallienus' standards, LOL! And what's up with Felicitas' misshapen head? She looks like something out of the cantina on Mos Eisley. I do like the emperor's neck beard, though.

    I'm sure you guys have examples that make this one look FDC by comparison, too!

    Gallienus FELICIT AVG antoninianus.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.61 g, 17.1 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, AD 261-262.
    Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head, right.
    Rev: FELICIT AVG, Felicitas standing right, holding cauceus in right hand and globe in left; T in right field.
    Refs: RIC 188; Göbl 478f; Cohen 183; RCV 10204.
     
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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Sometimes Kevin worked in post-strike quality control...

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    This one is two flans stuck together (bottom pic compares it with a normal single-thickness ant.)...
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Cool brockage!
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    That's the quintessential neckbeard coin.

    @Severus Alexander's example with Salus(?) emerging from his neckbeard is supercool. When the goddess of health emerges bodily from your crusty neckbeard to whisper a hint in your ear, it might be a subtle clue that it's time to shave... or at least bathe!
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Yup, Salus. And it turns out that Salus's reminder was captured in sculpture, as demonstrated by TIF:
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  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Neck beard. On point:kiss:. Rockin mullet. Like an 80s rocker:headphone: Ability to read emperors name...Keeeeeviiiiin:facepalm::banghead:!!!
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    Gallienus
    253-268. Denarius (Bronze),
    Rome, 264-265. IMP
    GALLIENVS AVG Laureate
    head of Gallienus to right. Rev.
    VBERITAS AVG Uberitas
    standing left, holding a purse in
    her right hand and cornucopia
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator


    Why am I not surprised? :hilarious:
     
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  10. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Gallienus with a frog eye

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  11. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    Big flan, Small flan -
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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    For all you interesting-neck-beard fans:
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting coin, @gsimonel . I have one too and I suspect the letters on ours were engraved by the same celator because they both use the same weird curved Γ in the left field on the reverse. Although I don't think they are obverse die-matches, the shape of the S in GALLIENVS and the V in AVG are very distinctive and the portraits are so similar they have to have come from the same hand.

    Gallienus AETERNITAS AVG Antoninianus.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.57 g, 19.2 mm, 8 h.
    Rome, AD 260-268.
    Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head right.
    Rev: AETERNITAS AVG, Radiate Sol standing left, raising right hand and holding globe raised in left; Γ in left field.
    Refs: RIC 160; Göbl 577a; Cohen 38 var.; RCV --.

    Some, but not all, examples of this issue from this officina of the Rome mint have the same curved gamma in the left field, such as this one from Gallienus.net:

    Gallienus AETERNITAS AVG Antoninianus Gallienus dot net.jpg

    and this one from Coins of Gallienus and Family:

    Gallienus AETERNITAS AVG Antoninianus Gallienus and Family.jpg
     
  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Nice coin. I like the spiked head gear. Is the reverse an early logo for the WNBA
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Yeah, that was the last straw, we had to fire Kevin.

    I heard he got a job managing a branch of 17th century copper.

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  18. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Thank was after his stint making flans for Byzantine trachys.
     
  19. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    His talent was quickly employed by Tetricus, flan master number 1.
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  20. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    . . . and his son:
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    Bronze Antoninianus
    Gallic Empire, unidentified southern mint
    Obv: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES
    Rev: SPES AVG - Spes, walking left, holding flower and raising robe
    RIC 270
    20x18mm, 2.5g.
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My Gallienus group seem not to all have the poor flan-shape issues as others. However, I do not consider them the bests in my collection...

    I have way too many of this guy.

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    RI Gallienus AE silvered Ant 21mm 2.7g Radiate CuirassedR - Jupiter L tbolt X RIC 214 SATURNALIA GIFT

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    RI Salonina wife of Gallienus 254-268 CE AE Ant 3.61g 20mm Rome mint 267-268 CE crescent Deer Walking delta RIC 15

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    Gallienus Silvered Æ Ant CE 263-264 AVG rad cuiras R Hercules R lion skin club star RIC 673

    RI Gallienus 253-268 CE Ant Milan mint Laetitia.jpg
    RI Gallienus 253-268 CE Ant Milan mint Laetitia

    This one has a gimpy flan, but not the extreme as others have.
    RI Gallienus 253-268 CE Ant Abundantia.jpg
    RI Gallienus 253-268 CE Ant Abundantia
     
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