Getting Medieval in Michigan

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Gavin Richardson, May 13, 2018.

  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Greetings from Kalamazoo, Michigan, home of the 53rd Annual International Congress on Medieval Studies. Since I am a lit guy, I typically do not attend the numismatics sessions. But I broke with tradition and enjoyed three papers yesterday. I was intrigued by one on the gold bezant—especially one issue struck by Christians in the holy land with Arabic legends praising the Trinity and Jesus as Messiah. I wondered if such a legend was a hostile political act toward Muslim crusader enemies or a more evangelical gesture.

    I was especially pleased to meet Ron Bude (left), Mr. Roman Lode himself, who’s doing some interesting metallurgical analysis of Constantinian era coinage. I’m not sure why I look so happy. Maybe it was early in the day and I wasn’t tired yet.

    So post your crusader era coinage or even a gold bezant, should you be remarkably lucky enough to own one.
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  3. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Ah, I miss going to Kalamazoo! Unfortunatly, my school has finals at this time, so I can’t escape!

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    Crusader - Antioch
    Tancred, Regent, r. 1101-1103, 1104-1112
    AE Type 2 Follis, 20.3 mm x 3.3 grams
    Obv.: Bust of Tancred facing, wearing turban, holding sword
    Rev.: Cross pommetée, fleuronnée at base; IC XC NI KA in quarters
    Ref.: De Wit 4079
     
  4. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    He bought a Licunius from me a couple of weeks ago for that very project. He told me it might take a couple of years to get published/completed. I'd be interested to read it when it's done.
     
  5. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    What a cool sunday, mate! (packing for a business trip... :meh::banghead:).
    I´m jealous :grumpy:;)
    Amazing Bezant, crusaders trolling? :troll: Any chance of to steal the paper? :smuggrin:
    More Antiochs:
    CRUSADERS, Bohémond III, 1149-1201, AR Denier, Third Crusade, Antioch:
    + BOAMVNDVS, helmeted crusader knight head left (´no jokes face type´); crescent to left, star to right.
    + ANTIOCHIA, crusader cross.

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  6. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Crusader Gold Bezants of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem: Two Additional Sources of Information
    Author: D. M. METCALF
    Source: The Numismatic Chronicle (1966), Vol. 160 (2000), pp. 203-218:

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    :rolleyes::wideyed:
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Interesting coins all. I'd love to pick up one of those gold bezants.
     
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    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

  9. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Ha. Only one of three actually brought coins in hand. No bezants to be found. Alan Berman does bring some medieval coins to sell at the exhibitors’ stalls, which also feature copious used and new books as well as medieval ms dealers.
     
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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I only spoke briefly with him. He’s an interesting guy. A professor of radiology who does coins on the side. As a radiology guy it he seems to have access to sophisticated equipment that allows him to study the composition of LRBs. I won’t steal his thunder, but as a general description, he is looking at the relative silver content in coins of Constantine and Licinius. He also has some interesting metallurgical perspectives on the VLPP series of Constantine. Ron says he’s getting out of selling coins, so perhaps he will have time to get his research out sooner.
     
  11. dlgilles

    dlgilles Member

    Allen Berman came and gave a great presentation on medieval coins at the Kalamazoo Coin Club meeting. Thanks Allen!
     
  12. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a good time!
     
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  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..from here to Kalamazoo... ST. LOUIS COIN 001.JPG ST. LOUIS COIN 002.JPG St. Louis Denar..
     
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    ominus1 Well-Known Member

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  15. BenSi

    BenSi Well-Known Member

    Not a crusader coin per say but a coin that was defiantly used by the crusaders. In fact it was from a crusader that their name was determined. Tetarteron Issued by the Eastern Roman Empire. zacedric.jpg

    1919a ALEXIUS PB TETARTERON S-Unlisted DOC 37 CLBC 2.5.1

    OBV Full length figures of John II beardless on r., and st Demetrius, holding between them labarum on long shaft. Emperor wears stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type. Saint wears short military tunic , breastplate, and saigon; holds sword, point resting on ground, in r. hand.

    REV Full length figures of Alexius on l. and of Irene, holding between them cross on long shaft. Both wear stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type.

    Size 16.57

    Weight 2.8gm

    These lead Tetarteron are coronation issues of John II and believed to be the origin of the series of tetartera. Thessalonica Mint

    DOC lists 6 examples with weights running from3.33 gm to 6.16 gm and sizes from 17mm to 19mm

    beautiful example.
    1919a ALEXIUS PB TETARTERON S-Unlisted DOC 37 CLBC 2.5.1

    OBV Full length figures of John II beardless on r., and st Demetrius, holding between them labarum on long shaft. Emperor wears stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type. Saint wears short military tunic , breastplate, and saigon; holds sword, point resting on ground, in r. hand.

    REV Full length figures of Alexius on l. and of Irene, holding between them cross on long shaft. Both wear stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type.

    Size 16.57

    Weight 2.8gm

    These lead Tetarteron are coronation issues of John II and believed to be the origin of the series of tetartera. Thessalonica Mint

    DOC lists 6 examples with weights running from3.33 gm to 6.16 gm and sizes from 17mm to 19mm

    Another beautiful example, much lighter.
    1919a ALEXIUS PB TETARTERON S-Unlisted DOC 37 CLBC 2.5.1

    OBV Full length figures of John II beardless on r., and st Demetrius, holding between them labarum on long shaft. Emperor wears stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type. Saint wears short military tunic , breastplate, and saigon; holds sword, point resting on ground, in r. hand.

    REV Full length figures of Alexius on l. and of Irene, holding between them cross on long shaft. Both wear stemma, divitision, collar piece and jeweled loros of a simplified type.

    Size 16.57

    Weight 2.8gm

    These lead Tetarteron are coronation issues of John II and believed to be the origin of the series of tetartera. Thessalonica Mint

    DOC lists 6 examples with weights running from3.33 gm to 6.16 gm and sizes from 17mm to 19mm

    Another beautiful example, much lighter.
     
  16. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Beautiful lead(s) (x3...:shame:)
     
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  17. BenSi

    BenSi Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I'm traveling and was having issues uploading the coin with hotel wifi. Don't see how to edit now.
     
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