1980P Half Dollar 11.27g - Over 1 gram light

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I pulled another light half dollar this week. It seems to be the same thickness as a normal half, no clips or anything. Normal amount of wear that would not account for it being over 1 gram lighter.
    Any thoughts?
    07MAY 1980P Half Dollar 10.27g 3.JPG 07MAY 1980P Half Dollar 10.27g.JPG 07MAY 1980P Half Dollar 10.27g 2.JPG
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Gonna bump this since it has had almost 100 views and no replies :p
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I don't know what to say about it :confused:
     
  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Bah! You were the one I was hoping would chime in!
     
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  6. Dave363

    Dave363 Well-Known Member

    All I can think is a defective planket that would cause the underweight.JMO
    Dave
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It has a sound to it that almost sounds like a 40%er. That's what made me notice it to begin with. I'm not sure what the weight would be for a half struck on quarter stock but I think it would be a bit lighter.
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    So I am still intrigued by this coin. I was doing some google searches and came across and article that mentions a 1980P half struck on Susan B. Anthony stock. A SBA should weigh 8.1 grams. Do you think that with the half being larger, that would account for an extra 2 grams?
    http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=6003
     
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  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    A chart showing what coins would weigh on different stock has it at 10.8 grams.
    And halves on quarter stock weigh just under 8.8 grams.
     
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    So that'd be a no. Hmmm
     
  11. JoeFromMass

    JoeFromMass Active Member

    It'd be cool if you found a new variety tho
     
  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Interesting. I really but know what to say about it, but here are some random observations and thoughts. They may or may not be relevant.

    It looks like some areas are not fully struck. Maybe the hair and there is weakness at the 2:00 rim on the obv. and corresponding area on the reverse. My guess would be a rolling error resulted in a thin planchet. It's only 9.4% light so that isn't a huge difference. I don't think it would carry much of a premium. (Don't quote me, but I think the weight spec is +/- 5%. If I'm wrong I know someone will correct me ;)). Remember, just my thoughts and I wouldn't be surprised if an expert determines it's something else
     
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  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Wrong-Stock-Weights_grams_AAA.jpg
    I saw a number of halves on quarter stock and they all weighed
    8.79 8.78 8.76 and that doesn't agree with this chart at all.
     
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  14. Michael K

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  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I was leaning towards a rolled thin planchet to begin with. Just happened upon the thing talking about the half on a SBA planchet.
    I always forget about SBAs :p
     
  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it was thin, you could stack it with some other halves and it would look thin.
    Thin planchet was my first thought but you said it was the same thickness as other halves.
    Going back to my previous post, the 9.35 was calculated in error in regards to thickness and the new number is 10.5 grams and the chart says 10.8 grams.
    If the chart is correct, including a +/- .15 tolerance, a half on SAB stock would be 10.65 to 10.95.
     
  17. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    When I get home I will snap a picture of it between some other halves.
    That chart confuses me a bit. Perhaps I am a bit too tired still.
     
  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    What confuses me in this chart is how a silver coin could be struck on SBA stock. (Or the other way around.)
    The numbers for the halves struck on quarter stock doesn't agree with the slabbed examples at all.
     
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  19. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Also true. I can only think of sliver proof coins or something along those lines that were minted in the same years as SBAs? Pretty much would only be 1999 right? Seems a bit of a stretch.
     
  20. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Somebody probably just made an Excel sheet and did the calculations for all the possibilities without regard to what is possible.
     
  21. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Appears to be a rolled thin planchet.

    It's not on an SBA planchet, and I doubt
    it's on a SBA-thickness half dollar planchet.
     
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