Oh yeah, Apollakles and a har-pod...ID help

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Here's another magical shape shifting coin that looks different in hand then on my phones screen. When I bought this I thought it looked like Herakles with a tripod reverse...
    But now that it's in hand I'm thinking Apollo with a harp reverse. Using those and other descriptors I have had no luck on ac search nor Google.
    This lil fella is 12 MM of Greekness. Any ideas as to who, what and when this is from?
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Yes, it is a kithara. Your reverse image is upside down.

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    Try looking at coins from Megaris, among others. Perhaps a CNG or ACsearch using "AE kithara". Might be Apollo on the obverse, might be someone else.
     
  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    The reverse is upside down. There seems to be something below the lyre... if it's an anchor it's probably Seleukid. Try searching for Antiochos II and lyre.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Can you make out any of the reverse letters? There is a Seleukid possibility for this type too (Antiochos II).
     
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  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I cannot make anything out. But am seeing a Antiochos ii on wild winds that might be a ringer!
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Could be... but there are a few other non Selukids which could fit as well so look through all of those hits as well (ACsearch)
     
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  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Almost all the antiochus ii that fit the bill are tripod reverses...but there is a single example on there that has a kithara.
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    Is this my coin?
    Im thinking that is an anchor. But due to my coins "extreme authenticity" it's hard to say.
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Baboom! And thanks to TIFs photo magic flipping it right side up, I can see "oxoy" coming down the right side. I think that's it!
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Yes, looking at it closer I think you can make out enough letters on your coin's reverse (and the anchor) to clinch the attribution as Antiochus II. Here I rotated the coin to make reading the letters easier:

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    CNG's archive have only three of them. You can see another dozen or so on AC search. Might have to search for alternative names for the kithara, or broaden the terms to just the king's name and AE.

    In case you need a fuller description of the legends, here's an ACsearch listing:

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4645454

    "Seleukid Kingdom. Antiochos II Theos. 261-246 B.C. AE 14 (14.23 mm, 2.62 g, 1 h). Sardes mint. Laureate head of Apollo right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ, titles vertically downward to right and left of kithara; anchor, flukes right, in exergue; H - ΔI in outer fields, left and right. Houghton 603; SNG Spaer 366"
     
  11. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Wahoo! Thanks @TIF & @zumbly ! My seleucid collection is a little bit richer thanks to your help:D
     
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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i happen to have this Antiochos ll coin meself..i had a hard time positioning the obverse to see Apollo with mine:rolleyes: kbaby eats Aurlieian silverwash antiochos ll lyre 008.JPG kbaby eats Aurlieian silverwash antiochos ll lyre 010.JPG
     
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