Is this natural toning?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Soda Ant, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    So if a person was to intentionally impose toning like that, is their recipe to impose heat on the coin?
     
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  3. RICHARD K

    RICHARD K MISTY & SASHA

    This may sound fishy also, but I purchased a1961 proof & 1961 ms for gifts . Put them in small gift boxes and the proof one toned to a beautiful BLUE edge and PINKISH to center & the ms turned gunmetal to BLUISH in a matter of 6 weeks. Never intended to tone these coins and did not want to give them to someone who probably thought they were junk so I kept them. I believe there is some kind of chemicals in the small gift boxes that caused this to happen, When I learn to post picture's will show on coin talk. I believe with all the chemicals out there and experiments someone can do anything to tone coins.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The easiest, and most effective, way to do it is with gasses.
     
  5. ALAN DAVIS

    ALAN DAVIS Old Sopemaker

    I would not bid on it either, it looks too even and consistent over the whole coin. But I could be totally wrong.
     
  6. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Hey Yoda, there were actually 12 unique bidders (43 total bids)...:smug::D:happy::eek:
     
  7. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Biddiots that there be, certainty.
    Only questionable to foresee quantity of
     
  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Be sure to come see the cello virtuoso.
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  9. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    But my Ma makes me go to bed early! :D
     
  10. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    No, not natural toning...Spark
     
  11. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Looks like artificial toning. Color is just "off."
     
  12. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I say not natural even though I have seen some modern proofs get some great color on them. I bet the photos are juiced also. It may have straight graded and than continued to react in the slab. I have heard that some doctors can tone coins in slabs, not sure if that's true but I don't doubt it hasn't been tried.
     
  13. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    The question isn't natural or artificial.

    The question is why would anyone pay $507 for it.
     
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  14. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    2 parts to this answer, imho...first, the buyer believes he will be able to sell later, recouping his investment. Secondly, the buyer becomes the owner of a perceived work of art. He/She thinks it is beautiful.

    Personally, I prefer a naturally toned piece. These garish, artificial plugs turn me off...Spark
     
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  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    No it’s not. People liked it and wanted it. People need to rember there’s always collectors which superior collections to theirs that can say the sam thing about anything you buy
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Just remember one thing though - there are and always have been plenty of coins that look just like that one, that are 100% natural toning.
     
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  17. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Duh. Of course. All of that goes without saying.

    But it does nothing to temper the incredulity that someone would find that coin desirable to the tune of $507.
     
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That I go along with. Bidiots, a bidding war, or just somebody that's crazy about toning ? We'll never know.

    But knowing what I do know, that being that toning like that can be easily replicated by someone with the knowledge to do so - I'd sure never pay that kinda money for it !
     
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  19. HawkeEye

    HawkeEye 1881-O VAMmer

    This might help http://www.1881o.com/toned-coins.html the best analysis I have ever seen was done by Doug Kurz who created and sold the Sunnywood Morgan collection. There are links to several informative articles on the right side of the page.
     
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  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That is a great analysis for Morgan’s. but it doesn’t really apply to clad proofs. The different metals all react differently
     
  21. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    For proof coins of that era and even today I’d say yes, that is natural.
    If it were a business strike I would say 100% artificial. That type of purple/orange/blue is too easy to recreate just by heating a coin.
    Attractive? I say no. Worth $500, absolutely not. It’s a 1981 proof quarter with some ok toning. $25 coin at most on my eyes.
     
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