Must have British hammered medieval coins

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  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    In your opinion, what hammered British coins should be considered must haves?

    I will start the list. It is meant to be a starting place, so please add to the list if you can and provide your reasons. If you have any of these please post them.

    An Early Sceat

    Viking issue

    Kings of Wessex- Alfred the Great

    Kings of Mercia- Offa

    Anglo Saxon kings- Cnut, Harold I, Harold II, Edward the Confessor, Aethelred II, Aethelstan

    Norman Kings- William I, Stephen, Henry I

    Angevins- Henry II, John, Richard I

    Plantagenet-Edward I, Henry III, Edward III

    Lancaster-Henry V, Henry VI

    York- Edward IV, Richard III

    Tudor-Henry VII, Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, Mary

    Stuart- James I

    Scottish- Mary queen of Scots, Robert the Bruce

    Irish-Groat of Henry VIII, penny of John

    A coin of the commonwealth
     
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  3. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I would add Æthelred II to anglo-saxons. He begins paying Danegeld to the vikings, and it is his actions that lead to a norman connection to England. I’d have similar reasoning for Henry I. Henry III would be important changing the coins to long cross pennies which pave the wat to the new pennies of Edward I.
     
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  4. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Great idea for a thread @Orfew

    I would include Offa of Mercia as he introduced continental pennies to England for all intents and purposes.

    Æthelstan should also be included as he is considered the first king of England, ruling over the land that comprises modern England.

    Edward III should also be included. He introduced the first successful gold coinage as well as circulating groats and half groats. He is also responsible for starting the 100 years war, which would greatly shape the history of England for centuries to come.
     
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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks for your input, the list has been amended.
     
  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks @TheRed , the changes have been made. Thanks for your input.
     
  7. ycon

    ycon Renaissance Man

    Mary I, as the first Queen of England to successfully rule in her own right, with her large presence in the historical imagination, and her notorious religious policies, seems undoubtedly important enough to include.
     
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  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks @ycon I have added Mary
     
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here are a few of mine from the list.
    Cnut
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    Stephen
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    Henry II
    Henry II new photo copy.jpg

    Edward I
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    Edward III
    Edward III quarter noble.jpg

    Henry V
    henry V.jpg

    Henry VIII
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    Elizabeth
    ELizabeth I new.jpg
     
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  10. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Very nice coins @Orfew I especially like the Cnut. I have yet to add one to my collection. I would also add a con from the Commonwealth (effectively Cromwell) to the list. England's experiment with republican government was very important and would forever alter the relationship between King and Parliament.
    Commonwealth.jpg

    Edward I
    Edward I Penny 1c.jpg

    John
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    Henry V
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  11. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Henry I
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    Edward III
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  12. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I think my problem with this list is I would just include all of them... ;)
     
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  13. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

  14. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Aethelred II S.1151
    Aethelred II S 1151.jpg
    Edward the Confessor S.1176
    Edward the Confessor S 1176.jpg
    Henry II Tealby
    Henry II Tealby Penny.png
    William I "The Conqueror" Sword Type
    William_I_Sword_Type_Penny_HHC4323.jpg
     
  15. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    If you are considering figures of great accommplishment, then Offa of Mercia, Alfred the Great, Aethelstan the Glorious, William I, Henry II, Richard I the Lionheart, Edward I Longshanks, Henry V, and Elizabeth are obvious targets.

    If you are considering figures that are legendary for maybe the wrong reasons, then Aethelred II the Unready, Edward the Confessor, Stephen of Blois (and maybe Matilda), John Lackland, Richard III, Bloody Mary I, and Charles I Stuart.

    If you consider periods, then consider examples of Wessex, pre-conquest England, Norman conquest, Anarchy, Angevins, Plantagenets, Lancastrians, Yorkists, Tudors, Stuarts, and Commonwealth.

    If you wants classic portraits, consider Offa's heavy portrait coinage, Alfred the Great's Londonia or cross with losenges, Aethelred II's rooster-combe long cross, Harold II Godwinson's PAX, Henry VIII's testoon, Edward VI's fine style shilling, Elizabeth I crown or halfcrown.

    Personally, I too would want them all.
     
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  16. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I would add Henry VI and Edward IV to cover the Wars of the Roses era.
     
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  17. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    I think Charles II would be interesting just to see the contrast between his hammered and milled coins. I have none of either.
     
  18. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I agree with @Aethelred that Henry VI and especially Edward IV should be added, also Henry VII as the original Tudor. All three are important, though Henry VI's wife Margaret is probably the one who matters during that reign!

    I would also suggest adding a couple things from Anglo Saxon England prior to Offa and Alfred. Perhaps an early thrymsa, plus a sceat each from the south (Kent?) and the north (Northumbria). Otherwise you're missing out a couple of centuries.

    Here's a sceat of (probably) Wihtred in Kent (c. 690-725). Ideally you'd want something a bit earlier.
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    Great list, I will certainly make use of the final version that emerges!
     
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  19. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Oh, and how about a Viking issue? Here's a Sihtric III Olafsson (Silkbeard) (995-1036), Dublin issue:
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  20. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Several types added. Thanks to everyone for the input. I think that if somehow had one of each of these coins that they would have a very good collection of British coins.
     
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