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I agree with S-28, and a nice one too!

 

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ANACS slabbed as S-27- would be a HUGE difference in value!

 

Yes, would that not have been great!?
I double and triple-checked in case it was indeed the S-27. Alas, no.

 

Now that wouldn't surprise me. There's a reason I always attribute the coins rather than trust the slab. We both have error rates and I choose to rely on my own.

They really aren't trustworthy attributers. But they may be decent at insurance when they're wrong and you don't find yourself on the long list of exceptions for coins where they will not honor their guarantee.

Of course, there are several people on this board which I would trust more than myself, but TPGs, any of them, are not on my list.

 

Oops! Noyes considers the first die state of S-264 to be a new die state.

 

I needed to use up some eBay bucks so I picked up this little beauty.



It looks like a clean AG/FR.

Here is a series of comps:

These are the only two others I could find earlier within die state VI where most have fully developed CUDS.

I think my new acquisition fits right between those two. All others I've seen have fully fleshed out CUDS.

A common variety, but the die state is called very rare (R6) and the early Die State VIs are even rarer.

 

Here are a couple od typical S-223 (VI)s with fully developed CUDs:

 

Since I've been using my new Noyes Literature, I've come to appreciate him more.

I like the way he uses Sheldon's numbering, regardless of emission sequence unlike Breen. I also like the use of die states for the dies rather than varieties, particularly when a die is used on several varieties and/or out of sequence.

I do like finding the Breen rarity estimates for the die states though when he chooses to present them.

The best of worlds will come when the Noyes images are available electronically and can be enlarged and manipulated for us geezers with failing eyesight.

 

So I love following these threads and trying to attribute the coins you guys post, mostly botching them but learning and having fun. There is a coin auction I saw posted and I always get a kick out of looking at the pictures they provide and the grades they assign them. It always amazes me that people buy some of the coins for the prices they realize. Anyway, on the website for tonights auction, they had this coin so I just thought I would share.

The description says its a "tough" variety but never tells you what it is - of course. You can bid online and the current bid is $140 - just FYI.

I'm not going and don't plan on bidding on anything - just showing the coin and curious on the variety since I have been having fun trying to attribute these. I keep coming up with S-222

 

Looks like an early Die Stage S-213 to me from the photos. Early Reverse Stage A or B. Middle grade with some corrosion. The wavy lines on the obverse are a diagnostic if that's what I'm seeing. There's nothing obviously off at a glace to confirm the Reverse of S-213.

I'm always working at a disadvantage if the detail fades when I enlarge them.

I wouldn't call that a tough variety, but a middle grade is nice.

As for the S-222, look at the upper leaf on the right and it's position relative to the second S in STATES. The S-222 is right of the S while the subject is under the left side of S.

 

Thank you marshall. Now that you've pointed out the leaf position, coming up with S222 is bad. However, I kept looking at an example on largecents website with the wavy lines obverse and just couldn't bring myself to say thats what they were.

Thank you again.

 

Also on 222 the gap between the ends of the wreath is centered below the S in STATES.

 

Anyone know this one?

 

Anyone I.D. this hot mess? @Eduard , @Marshall , @Jack D. Young ?

 

The edge looks like the reverse. There may be something, but it's too corroded and pitted to tell.

 

Guess 1795 S-76b.

 

I'm pretty sure it's a S-76. Is it a thick (~208 grains and usually lettered) or thin (~168 grains and usually plain edge) planchet? On a corroded specimen, weight might be the only thing you can use to tell the difference. It will probably be a little lower than the issue weight.

Like Jack said, it's probably the R1 76b rather than the R5 76a. I regret disposing of the 76a I had now that I can see the images on a large screen.

 

My 76a:

 

It's a thin planchet, IMO