Well being a coin collector for some time, my grandfather chose to leave me his coins after he passed away. He was not really a coin collector, but did keep some stuff over his lifetime. These are the 4 that i beleive are worth the most, and i wonder if i should submit them to PCGS to have them slabbed and graded, is it worth it? I realize the pics are a little fuzzy now, i had a 10x macro lens on to try and capture more detail, i think it actually makes them look worse. Coin 1 (1795 Silver Dollar) Coin 2 (1844 Silver Dollar) Coin 3 (1814/3 Overdate?) Coin 4 (1817/3 Overdate???) Thanks in advance, Jeff
I don't think that PCGS or NGC would slab those coins due to harsh cleaning and damage. Your best bet would be to send them to ANACS or NCS for authentication slabbing. Most of the numismatic value the coins had has been destroyed by the cleaning and damage.
Notice how the outside of the coin is dark, and the inside is a bright white? That is evidence that points to cleaning, because coins of that grade normally aren't a bright white. Especially when the rest of the coin is a fark black. As for as value, I would say they are worth about a third to half of the price if they weren't cleaned. Just curious, did you clean them at all man? Phoenix
If you find a buyer for them, here is around what you might expect to get for them: 1795 $500-$700 1844 $100-$200 1814 $30-$50 (depending on variety) 1817 $20-$40 (depending on variety, if it is the 1817/4, then you hit it pretty nicely :kewl These are all subjective prices, about what you might get for those coins. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do. :thumb: Phoenix
First, the 1795 dollar would have to be authenticated. If it is genuine then it might be worth $700 - $800. The 1844 $200 - $300. The 1814/3 maybe $100 - $150. The 1817 - less than $100 I would think.
yeah, first off, if i were to send it to one of the other companies for authentification, do they grade it as well? and when i said send in to have it graded i knew it would be any mint state, but i figured they would get a rating of about good, good, fine.....
NCS does not assign grades, they only guarantee authenticity. ANACS would net grade the coins, but they are the only ones who would. Persoanlly, if I wanted to sell these coins, I would go with NCS, I would get better prices that way.
First off, thanks for all of your help and comments. I will most likely not sell them, especially the two silver dollars. I might consider selling one of the two halves. I took a look at NCS website and they have two options, authentication only, and authentification and grading, i wonder which would be the better choice. However, i am unsure if i am even eligible to have them graded since i do not belong to any society.
As I said before, they will not grade the coins because of the cleaning and damage. And you don't have to be a member of the society to submit them. You can take them to any participating dealer and they can submit them for you.
nice 1795...common variety but, still a very nice coin here is the attribution: recent sales of this variety and similar in grade/condition have been in the $1100-$1400 1795 $1 Three Leaves Reverse, Head of ‘95 Portrait Lowest Hair Curl Open/Distant from Star 1 Variety: BB-27, B-5, R-1 pop. 3000 very cool...i especially like the obverse stars
wow, thanks for all the info. That is great to here. When you say pop. 3000, does that mean only 3000 have been struck? Would everyone agree that the halves are 1814/3 & 1817/3? yeah GDJMSP, i was just a little confused on there website, it says they only grade problem coins, so it would be AU55 Cleaned... http://www.ncscoin.com/auth_grading/services_and_fees.asp I really only care if it is authentic, which i am pretty sure it is.
pop 3000 is only for that variety. the over all mintage for all varieties is close to 160,000. which is not a low mintage for the series, however; it is the most widely available flowing hair dollar [1794, the only other year of the flowing hair, only had a total mintage of approx. 1,700-1,800] and thus the 1795 is sought out for those holes in everyone's typeset. i agree that those are 1814/3 [o.101-101awould be my guess as to the variety] and 1817/3, both over dates but, i defer to bonedigger for the overton attribution as i do not have the overton text to memory yet...not really a focus of mine and my text is out of reach...besides bonedigger is the resident expert imo and would love to chime in...take a gander at his blue collar bust set...it's pretty stellar. as for the professional grading i would advise against it unless you intend to sell them in the near future. if you choose to sell in the distant future i would wait and holder them just prior to the sale..or ask if the buyer/consignor has a specific grading co. they prefer. additionally the grading assigned is in a constant flux....[a vf25 today maybe a xf45 a year from now] also; most savvy/intelligent collectors [or purists] who seek out coins in these series in the condition that these are in, would probably prefer them to be raw or would free them from their holder soon after. buyers would also be well versed enough in the series to detirmine for themselves that they are indeed genuine...if the buyer tells you they're fake...then, you are probably getting low balled and selling to the wrong buyer....[low balling is bad...even at the pub it's not recommended.] in my opinion, for what is worth; the coins in the provided photographs are all genuine and coins i would add to my personal sets.
Thanks for the kind words CBD. The 1814/3 CBH appears to be the O-101A (*R-2/3) variety with the die crack prominately bisecting the date. The 1817/3 CBH looks like the O-101 (R-2) variety. Without being able to closely examine each or with better pics I can't be certain but am pretty confidant in their attributions... Take Care Ben * the 1814/3, O-101 is an R-2 so with the subvariety ( O-101A with cracks) not being listed, I guess it would/could be assumed to be R-3.
