New suspect half cents listed on the "Bay"

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  1. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    1st one was suspicious due to the surfaces/ appearance but looks like a "weathered" 1857 C-1 half cent:

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    2nd listing today of an example with a similar "look":

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    A couple of matching (non die state) marks:

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    Thoughts?
     
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  3. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    According to Q. David Bowers, this coin is often found "brown, sometimes with tinges of red, often mottled."

    As far as the reverse is concerned, those marks are too similar. Personally, I would stay away.
     
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  4. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Someone on Facebook pointed out this seller’s coins and pegged them all as fakes. There was a pretty convincing LDS 1841 among them.
     
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  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The 1847 and 1855 are obvious, but the others are quite a bit more deceptive.

    I suspect the hit on the first star of the 1841 is going to be diagnostic for the fake.

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  6. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Agreed TypeCoin; one of the members of my FB group pointed them out as well and purchased one for my "Dark Side Collection" to analyze. Thank you for the images, as I have a pretty large database of them for just this purpose- comparing "attribution marks" of others going forward. One of the questions my group is discussing is whether these are struck or cast, and having one in hand will aid in that evaluation.
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Thank you for what you do, Jack!
     
  8. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Seller has a glowing feedback profile as well!

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  9. Matthew Penn

    Matthew Penn New Member

    I want to know how eBay is still allowing this seller to sell.
     
  10. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You don’t even need to bother figuring out this coin. The dealer’s feedback makes it a moot point.
     
  11. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Yes, but there are 2 of them and 2 different sellers!
     
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  12. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Actually, it looks like the 2nd one came from the same seller as #1 sold in early March (same toning on both):

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  13. Dillan

    Dillan The sky is the limit !

    I would not be able to tell the difference if it was not for you good people pointing out the scammers. Thank you for doing this. What really upsets me is that eBay allows this garbage to continue even after they have been made aware of the issue. Eventually most likely eBay will boot this person off . I noticed he had only 27 feedback ratings , he must be one of those that gets on , dumps as much as possible , and then starts up from a new location under a different name . This person then probably does it all over again. Thank you again for bring these important issues to the attention of people like myself that is still being educated in many areas of coin collecting.
     
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